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Don Bluth
05-06-2009, 02:49 PM
Seminar begins at 4:00 PM AZ time. Talk to you then...

JasonCampbell
05-06-2009, 03:23 PM
Don,

I just wanted to tell you how excited I am about the Cyber garage project. I recently bought a copy of Banjo and watching the behind the scene footage continues to reinforce that dream of being a traditional animator. I am really looking forward to putting pencil to paper for a real project.

I appreciate the intention of your concessions around the paper size and the use of a cintiq but I've spoken out in the thread on how I believe that we as the ones who are benefiting from this exercise should respect the constraints you imposed, and I hope that everyone comes to see the benefits in those constraints as well.

This is my first of these seminars so I'm not sure if it is the forum you wish to discuss any of the project, but that is where my mind is right now. I'm curious if you have had a chance to look over any of the submissions so far or the crit and feedback thread we made, I know I would love to hear any sort of feeback you might have on the drawings I placed there.

I'm also very curious about how the scenes will be distributed, I'm curious if perhaps there might be a small testing phase to see where everyone currently stands as some scenes might require more time, work and skill to complete, I'm not advocating for any particular methodology for this merely curious as this entire endeavor must be a bit of logistical headache and I know that everyone who wants to be a part of this should be allowed to benefit from it at every stage. I wonder if the round robin of scene progress and directorial feedback will be for public, i.e. participant, consumption.

Thanks so much for doing this for us, I truly appreciate it.

Best,
J.

feliceworkshop
05-06-2009, 03:29 PM
Hi Mr. Bluth, my name is Felice and I’m currently an animation student in Tampa, FL. The video below is a sample from my final short ALBINO & THE BAT.

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I hope you don’t mind, its 3D instead of traditional animation. I was hoping that you could offer me some pointers or critiques in regard to the motion of the child elf. There is something about the part in which he holds back up on the branch and eats a couple of berries that does not convince me. In this clip I’m introducing the main character of the short, Albino The Elf, and trying to convey the lively and playful aspect of his personality; however, something is missing. I can’t quite put my finger on it, perhaps because I’ve been working on it a bit too much…. I really would like to hear your point of view on this, thanks.

lavallelee
05-06-2009, 03:33 PM
hey you guys, the seminar hasn't started yet. :p

feliceworkshop
05-06-2009, 03:37 PM
sorry...got confused with the time zone..here in Florida it's 6:53 pm what's the time there in Arizona?

Don Bluth
05-06-2009, 04:05 PM
Don,

I just wanted to tell you how excited I am about the Cyber garage project. I recently bought a copy of Banjo and watching the behind the scene footage continues to reinforce that dream of being a traditional animator. I am really looking forward to putting pencil to paper for a real project.

I appreciate the intention of your concessions around the paper size and the use of a cintiq but I've spoken out in the thread on how I believe that we as the ones who are benefiting from this exercise should respect the constraints you imposed, and I hope that everyone comes to see the benefits in those constraints as well.

This is my first of these seminars so I'm not sure if it is the forum you wish to discuss any of the project, but that is where my mind is right now. I'm curious if you have had a chance to look over any of the submissions so far or the crit and feedback thread we made, I know I would love to hear any sort of feeback you might have on the drawings I placed there.

I'm also very curious about how the scenes will be distributed, I'm curious if perhaps there might be a small testing phase to see where everyone currently stands as some scenes might require more time, work and skill to complete, I'm not advocating for any particular methodology for this merely curious as this entire endeavor must be a bit of logistical headache and I know that everyone who wants to be a part of this should be allowed to benefit from it at every stage. I wonder if the round robin of scene progress and directorial feedback will be for public, i.e. participant, consumption.

Thanks so much for doing this for us, I truly appreciate it.

Best,
J.
Jason,
Welcome aboard. My intentions to begin will be to have all the animators do a march/walk on 12's of both the rabbit and the fox. Based on those pencil tests, we will assign the scenes according to the animators capability. I believe the vision will open up for the whole crew when we present the animatic online. We will then see the tone of the piece we're making.
I'll try to find time to check out your artwork over the next few days when I finish the story sketches for the project.

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lavallelee
05-06-2009, 04:06 PM
Sorry for my absence last week, I was moving to Orlando. I am now here, made my first huge purchase of supplies and equipment, could you tell me if I bought the right stuff?? Such as pro strips and paper??

1 x 12f Finch Animation Paper (500 shts)
- Paper Type: Acme $18.95
1 x 12f FINCH Econ-0-Pack (100 shts)
- Hole Type: ACME $8.00
1 x PRO Animation Station Lightbox w/Student Pro Disc
- Book Holder: Add Book Holder
- Light box and Peg Bar: Acme Peg W/ Pro Disc
- Pencil Holder: Add Pencil Holder $566.85
1 x *New REUSEABLE Pro Header Strips
- QUANTITY: 50
- hole type: Acme

I'm really excited, this is my first animation lightbox & disc!! I never would of thought to have tried animating this way if it wasn't for this site, thank you Don. :)

Now after looking at my order, I think I accidentally put in Econ-0-Pack?? What is that exactly?? I didn't mean to put that in my cart, but I already paid for it...

Regan
05-06-2009, 04:09 PM
Don, do you have a favorite set of markers and colors that you use for storyboarding?

johncbeggs
05-06-2009, 04:09 PM
Heres my attempt at the turnaround model sheet from the last session :D

I hope its not too boring :laughing: I see many problems that my eyes wont stop pointing out to me such as his wooden leg :) what do you think ?

http://i632.photobucket.com/albums/uu41/johncbeggs/FatCatTurnaround.png

Don Bluth
05-06-2009, 04:11 PM
Hi Mr. Bluth, my name is Felice and I?m currently an animation student in Tampa, FL. The video below is a sample from my final short ALBINO & THE BAT.

I hope you don?t mind, its 3D instead of traditional animation. I was hoping that you could offer me some pointers or critiques in regard to the motion of the child elf. There is something about the part in which he holds back up on the branch and eats a couple of berries that does not convince me. In this clip I?m introducing the main character of the short, Albino The Elf, and trying to convey the lively and playful aspect of his personality; however, something is missing. I can?t quite put my finger on it, perhaps because I?ve been working on it a bit too much?. I really would like to hear your point of view on this, thanks.

The most important thing in bringing a character to life is to let the viewer know what your character is feeling. Your scene leaves me with questions like: why is he eating the berries? Does he like the berries? Do they taste good? I just don't understand what the point of your scene is. Your animation would be better if it convinced me that the elf was real and had real thoughts.
Work on the abstract idea of your characters feelings. Both pencil and CG require that.

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Don Bluth
05-06-2009, 04:15 PM
Sorry for my absence last week, I was moving to Orlando. I am now here, made my first huge purchase of supplies and equipment, could you tell me if I bought the right stuff?? Such as pro strips and paper??

1 x 12f Finch Animation Paper (500 shts)
- Paper Type: Acme $18.95
1 x 12f FINCH Econ-0-Pack (100 shts)
- Hole Type: ACME $8.00
1 x PRO Animation Station Lightbox w/Student Pro Disc
- Book Holder: Add Book Holder
- Light box and Peg Bar: Acme Peg W/ Pro Disc
- Pencil Holder: Add Pencil Holder $566.85
1 x *New REUSEABLE Pro Header Strips
- QUANTITY: 50
- hole type: Acme

I'm really excited, this is my first animation lightbox & disc!! I never would of thought to have tried animating this way if it wasn't for this site, thank you Don. :)

Now after looking at my order, I think I accidentally put in Econ-0-Pack?? What is that exactly?? I didn't mean to put that in my cart, but I already paid for it...

If it's acme, it appears that you have all the correct equipment you need.
I've no idea what the Econ-o-pack is. $566.85 for a pencil holder seems a bit expensive.


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Don Bluth
05-06-2009, 04:16 PM
Don, do you have a favorite set of markers and colors that you use for storyboarding?

I use Prisma Color markers.

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lavallelee
05-06-2009, 04:16 PM
If it's acme, it appears that you have all the correct equipment you need.
I've no idea what the Econ-o-pack is. $566.85 for a pencil holder seems a bit expensive.


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That was the whole set up, lol

PRO Animation Station Lightbox w/Student Pro Disc
- Book Holder: Add Book Holder
- Light box and Peg Bar: Acme Peg W/ Pro Disc
- Pencil Holder: Add Pencil Holder
TOTAL $566.85

Don Bluth
05-06-2009, 04:18 PM
Heres my attempt at the turnaround model sheet from the last session :D

I hope its not too boring :laughing: I see many problems that my eyes wont stop pointing out to me such as his wooden leg :) what do you think ?



John,
It actually looks very good. When doing a turnaround, it is best to place the camera at the level of the character's stomach. You're camera is currently placed above the character's head which means you will lose a lot of necessary details.

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johncbeggs
05-06-2009, 04:19 PM
That was the whole set up, lol

PRO Animation Station Lightbox w/Student Pro Disc
- Book Holder: Add Book Holder
- Light box and Peg Bar: Acme Peg W/ Pro Disc
- Pencil Holder: Add Pencil Holder
TOTAL $566.85

thats alot of cash :)

feliceworkshop
05-06-2009, 04:20 PM
[QUOTE]why is he eating the berries? Does he like the berries? Do they taste good? I just don't understand what the point of your scene is. Your animation would be better if it convinced me that the elf was real and had real thoughts.QUOTE]

Thank you for your advise... this is just a clip from the animation short, ..just at the very beginning of it, it introduces the character....I'm intrigued with the idea of showing why he likes berries..... consider that the short is however going to be not longer than 2 minutes....so aside from the core of the story itself (which involves this elf kid rescuing a bat trapped in a thornmbush at the base of the tree) its difficult to find time for more character developement...any suggestions?

lavallelee
05-06-2009, 04:20 PM
Here are some drawings of your Swallow character i tried.

http://www.myanimespace.org/animation/swallowattempt1.jpg
http://www.myanimespace.org/animation/swallowattempt2.jpg

any suggestions?

johncbeggs
05-06-2009, 04:21 PM
John,
It actually looks very good. When doing a turnaround, it is best to place the camera at the level of the character's stomach. You're camera is currently placed above the character's head which means you will lose a lot of necessary details.

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thanks for the advice :) I will try next time to keep the camera level at the characters stomach, I just gave the image another look and I can understand what you mean, always great advice :)

Regan
05-06-2009, 04:22 PM
I use Prisma Color markers.

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I really like the marker renderings for the panels in your storyboarding book, which I've just started reading...the coloring gives the drawings a great mood, and depth.

The tip about using a vanishing point was a good one. It's helping me out.

lavallelee
05-06-2009, 04:22 PM
thats alot of cash :)

it's a great investment towards my future in animation :D

Don Bluth
05-06-2009, 04:23 PM
thats alot of cash :)

John, It shouldn't cost you that much money. Basic equipment includes a cheap light board , a set of $4 pegs, a ream of paper, a pencil and a scanner. The scanner is your biggest expense. Digicel is donating the software.

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Don Bluth
05-06-2009, 04:25 PM
[QUOTE]why is he eating the berries? Does he like the berries? Do they taste good? I just don't understand what the point of your scene is. Your animation would be better if it convinced me that the elf was real and had real thoughts.QUOTE]

Thank you for your advise... this is just a clip from the animation short, ..just at the very beginning of it, it introduces the character....I'm intrigued with the idea of showing why he likes berries..... consider that the short is however going to be not longer than 2 minutes....so aside from the core of the story itself (which involves this elf kid rescuing a bat trapped in a thornmbush at the base of the tree) its difficult to find time for more character developement...any suggestions?

You HAVE to take time to show us who the character is or there will be no pay off in your 2 minute short. What is your character feeling and why is he feeling it?

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johncbeggs
05-06-2009, 04:25 PM
it's a great investment towards my future in animation :D

well you defiantly got that right :D

I will be thinking about doing the same , as soon as I get a ob this summer :)

Don Bluth
05-06-2009, 04:28 PM
Here are some drawings of your Swallow character i tried.
any suggestions?

I like the loose feel of your drawings. Once you understand how the character is constructed, try drawing him in different positions and with different expressions of your own. I think you would be very good at this. Nice try...

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johncbeggs
05-06-2009, 04:29 PM
John, It shouldn't cost you that much money. Basic equipment includes a cheap light board , a set of $4 pegs, a ream of paper, a pencil and a scanner. The scanner is your biggest expense. Digicel is donating the software.

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Your right :). Its not that expensive at all and its sure worth it, I plan on buying the things you mentioned from the website link you hosted but Im a little worried about the scanner at this point in time due to insufficient funds:D

Don Bluth
05-06-2009, 04:30 PM
I really like the marker renderings for the panels in your storyboarding book, which I've just started reading...the coloring gives the drawings a great mood, and depth.

The tip about using a vanishing point was a good one. It's helping me out.

That's good... Keep watching the videos too.

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lavallelee
05-06-2009, 04:30 PM
I tried drawing Charlie, and i think i failed misurably any advice on how to draw him better?

http://www.myanimespace.org/animation/charlieattempt1.jpg

feliceworkshop
05-06-2009, 04:31 PM
Thanks Don for your precious advise.....
I have a bit of a technical question about connecting an action to another action when working on an animated scene. Consider the clip that I?ve animated as an exercise below:

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1-The kid stares at the bowling ball
2- The kid picks up the bowling ball and throws it down the bowling alley
I always have a problem when it comes to figuring out how to deal with the transition between two different events in an animation sequence ?.in this case between staring at the bowling ball and picking up the ball the kid simply freezes up for a split second?any thoughts on this matter?

SpiralEFX
05-06-2009, 04:32 PM
Don think you could do some Video tips on Effects animation? ...this is my area of interest. Also for the cyber garage project think you have any efx scenes we / or i could animate? Thanks,Les

johncbeggs
05-06-2009, 04:33 PM
That's good... Keep watching the videos too.

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I really enjoyed your inbetween video it had alot of info about the subject and I hope you continue making more because they are all truly helpful to me.

I have been drawing owls alot lately all kinds of em all shapes and sizes :)

Don Bluth
05-06-2009, 04:36 PM
I tried drawing Charlie, and i think i failed misurably any advice on how to draw him better?

http://www.myanimespace.org/animation/charlieattempt1.jpg

Making a drawing involves training your eye to look for shape relationships that don't please your eye. Most of the time, you're eye is blind to the best solution. The brain takes time to raise its standard and require you to do better work. That is the reason one can fall out of love with his/her own drawings in just a few hours.
Keep asking yourself the questions:
1) What part of the drawing do I not like?
2) How can I make it better?

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johncbeggs
05-06-2009, 04:40 PM
Making a drawing involves training your eye to look for shape relationships that don't please your eye. Most of the time, you're eye is blind to the best solution. The brain takes time to raise its standard and require you to do better work. That is the reason one can fall out of love with his/her own drawings in just a few hours.
Keep asking yourself the questions:
1) What part of the drawing do I not like?
2) How can I make it better?

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That is another tip I have been learning from your videos, Ive been making shape relationships alot more and before it never really even crossed my mind and for this I am thankfull to you because I needed it!

Don Bluth
05-06-2009, 04:41 PM
Thanks Don for your precious advise.....
I have a bit of a technical question about connecting an action to another action when working on an animated scene. Consider the clip that I?ve animated as an exercise below:


1-The kid stares at the bowling ball
2- The kid picks up the bowling ball and throws it down the bowling alley
I always have a problem when it comes to figuring out how to deal with the transition between two different events in an animation sequence ?.in this case between staring at the bowling ball and picking up the ball the kid simply freezes up for a split second?any thoughts on this matter?

As I look at your test, two things come to mind.
1) your character never stops moving so I never see him thinking a thought.
2) The entertainment of any scene is always in Anticipation of the action.
Throwing the bowling ball will never match the fun of the wind-up to throw the ball. What I'm saying is...Too much is going on in too little time.

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jeremyhopkins
05-06-2009, 04:41 PM
For Secret of Nimh you directed, wrote, boarded and animated during the production? This is extraordinary for today when a story department alone has 15 or 20 people. How did you organize your time to do everything while maintaining excellent craftsmanship in your work?

Also, in the Nimh extra features, you mentioned how you grew up with horses and had to travel by horse to see a Disney feature in the city. This is a beautiful, sincere story and it resonates with me because I grew up on a farm and my family trained horses in the same manner as Tom Dorrance (http://www.tomdorrance.com/). If the cyber garage project goes well, hopefully I can encourage you to think about this story. It's genuine sincerity in a time of cynicism. Sorry, that wasn't a question; it was more like feedback and encouragement.

Don Bluth
05-06-2009, 04:43 PM
Don think you could do some Video tips on Effects animation? ...this is my area of interest. Also for the cyber garage project think you have any efx scenes we / or i could animate? Thanks,Les

Thanks for the suggestion. We'll give it some thought and see if we can get some effects tutorials in the works.
I'll include some effects in the animation for the Cyber Garage Project.

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lavallelee
05-06-2009, 04:44 PM
i also tried the hippo, i got lost at his feet, and probably could of done the shirt/body better (i think i say this alot, im going practice those more) and thanks for the tips on charlie, i will keep trying :)

http://www.myanimespace.org/animation/thehippoattempt1.jpg

zanekohler
05-06-2009, 04:45 PM
If we are short on time and would not be be able to do the cyber garage this time around, is it still possible to follow along and or have access to try out the animation scenes at least for learning?

johncbeggs
05-06-2009, 04:51 PM
I have been told I have a good eye for character by alot of teachers in my school.Does this help alot when developing characters and has anyone ever said that to you before because I find it kinda find it an odd compliment I guess :D

Don Bluth
05-06-2009, 04:52 PM
For Secret of Nimh you directed, wrote, boarded and animated during the production? This is extraordinary for today when a story department alone has 15 or 20 people. How did you organize your time to do everything while maintaining excellent craftsmanship in your work?

Also, in the Nimh extra features, you mentioned how you grew up with horses and had to travel by horse to see a Disney feature in the city. This is a beautiful, sincere story and it resonates with me because I grew up on a farm and my family trained horses in the same manner as Tom Dorrance (http://www.tomdorrance.com/). If the cyber garage project goes well, hopefully I can encourage you to think about this story. It's genuine sincerity in a time of cynicism. Sorry, that wasn't a question; it was more like feedback and encouragement.

I believe it's a fallacy to think you need 15-20 people to tell a story. Many scripts are usually written by a one person. It is usually management trying to protect their backsides that cause a department to bloat to that size. All good authors have an editor who scrutinizes and pulls them back when they are in error.

The horse trainer has such a wonderful face, I wonder if this wouldn't be better in live action. I've always believed that the subjects for animatio films should be things that the live action camera cannot capture.

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Don Bluth
05-06-2009, 04:53 PM
i also tried the hippo, i got lost at his feet, and probably could of done the shirt/body better (i think i say this alot, im going practice those more) and thanks for the tips on charlie, i will keep trying :)



The character is very funny... It looks good.

Great Job.

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Don Bluth
05-06-2009, 04:53 PM
If we are short on time and would not be be able to do the cyber garage this time around, is it still possible to follow along and or have access to try out the animation scenes at least for learning?

Absolutely!

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SpiralEFX
05-06-2009, 04:56 PM
Thanks, Don i just want you to know.. you are the one who brought back the art of effects back to animation after Disney pretty much abandoned them.... That flame flickering at the beginning of Secret of NIMH started a fire for love of animation & EFX .. its is a work of art.. who animated it? was it Dorse ? I applied for Disney internship for 2d effects.. still waiting to hear back from them. i know you probably dont have much time to look at my entire portfolio & give me advice. but if you get a chance...thanks

http://lescarpenter.blogspot.com/

Don Bluth
05-06-2009, 04:56 PM
I have been told I have a good eye for character by alot of teachers in my school.Does this help alot when developing characters and has anyone ever said that to you before because I find it kinda find it an odd compliment I guess :D

You are the best judge of whether you are a good designer or not. Compliments are great but they are as meaningless as critisism. Please yourself.

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lavallelee
05-06-2009, 04:58 PM
my last question;

Could you give me a link to the 12 field guide you want us to have?? I think I found one, but I want to be sure it's the right one.

feliceworkshop
05-06-2009, 05:00 PM
Thanks Don, I appretiate your suggestion, when animating I defineteley need to try not to rush into an action without having my characters expressing a motivation or a purpose. I wish my teachers would have encourage me to develop that aspect in this exercize...rather than put the enphasis on delivering the assignement in time!....:rolleyes: that's unfortunatly the problem with a lot of animation schools nowadays.....

This one is a good example of what I'm talking about above, its an excerpt from a group project in school that ended up quite disastrously…. anyway, animation drawings and compositing for this clip alone, is all my work. While arguably, not the best example of storytelling around, but simply from a technical standpoint, are the characters movements depicted correctly?

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johncbeggs
05-06-2009, 05:00 PM
You are the best judge of whether you are a good designer or not. Compliments are great but they are as meaningless as critisism. Please yourself.

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I truly believe that! its nice to get a compliment but I dont draw because of that I draw for myself and the love of creating. Im not the type of person that likes to boast about his drawings I dont think im even good. I like a drawing then 6 hours later like you said Im bored with it and feel I can create a better character :).

Snapai
05-06-2009, 05:00 PM
I believe it's a fallacy to think you need 15-20 people to tell a story. Many scripts are usually written by a one person. It is usually management trying to protect their backsides that cause a department to bloat to that size. All good authors have an editor who scrutinizes and pulls them back when they are in error.
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It's wonderful to hear you say that! Seems like every movie that I absolutely loved found a way to duck the overmanagement or "design by committee" thing.

(for example: I heard Lilo and Stitch was completely written and designed by 4 people, at a series of gettogethers at the director's house around pizza and beer. Then they brought it into work all ready to go.)

So now I'm curious. Since you've worked on productions of all sizes, what's the ideal size group to make a feature? Or does it have more to do with how people work with one another?

Don Bluth
05-06-2009, 05:01 PM
Thanks, Don i just want you to know.. you are the one who brought back the art of effects back to animation after Disney pretty much abandoned them.... That flame flickering at the beginning of Secret of NIMH started a fire for love of animation & EFX .. its is a work of art.. who animated it? was it Dorse ? I applied for Disney internship for 2d effects.. still waiting to hear back from them. i know you probably dont have much time to look at my entire portfolio & give me advice. but if you get a chance...thanks

http://lescarpenter.blogspot.com/

Indeed, the flames at the beginning of NIMH were done by Dorse Lanpher. Thanks for posting your work it looks great.

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Don Bluth
05-06-2009, 05:03 PM
my last question;

Could you give me a link to the 12 field guide you want us to have?? I think I found one, but I want to be sure it's the right one.

http://www.cartooncolour.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=5_26&products_id=73

Make sure you get the punched version.

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johncbeggs
05-06-2009, 05:06 PM
Well thakyou again for the great session, you are a big inspiration to me and I hope you have a great day!

feliceworkshop
05-06-2009, 05:07 PM
...Is the session already over?:confused:
Is there time for one last reply for my work?

JasonCampbell
05-06-2009, 05:11 PM
Another thing I was curious about, will we be doing clean-up on this project?

Don Bluth
05-06-2009, 05:11 PM
Thanks Don, I appretiate your suggestion, when animating I defineteley need to try not to rush into an action without having my characters expressing a motivation or a purpose. I wish they they had taken the time to explain that to me in school...rather than put the enphasis on delivering the assignement in time!....:rolleyes: that's unfortunatly the problem with a lot of animation schools nowadays, they lure you into believing that animation is a flashy and cool succession of action scenes.....

This one is a good example of what I'm talking about above, its an excerpt from a group project in school that ended up quite disastrously?. anyway, animation drawings and compositing for this clip alone, is all my work. While arguably, not the best example of storytelling around, but simply from a technical standpoint, are the characters movements depicted correctly?



It's hard to critique a piece like this. I'm sure that you can critique your own work as I do with mine wishing you had done things differently. I always ask myself this question: What do I want the audience to get after looking at my scene. Is it the ambush or is it the reaction to the ambush? This kind of thing is called "Finding the focus of your scene." What are you trying to say?

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Don Bluth
05-06-2009, 05:14 PM
It's wonderful to hear you say that! Seems like every movie that I absolutely loved found a way to duck the overmanagement or "design by committee" thing.

(for example: I heard Lilo and Stitch was completely written and designed by 4 people, at a series of gettogethers at the director's house around pizza and beer. Then they brought it into work all ready to go.)

So now I'm curious. Since you've worked on productions of all sizes, what's the ideal size group to make a feature? Or does it have more to do with how people work with one another?

There's no ideal size but your second point is valid when people work well together, they can accomplish miracles. Creative energy is as real as the air we breath. I've been in story meetings where one person can negate all the creative energy of the other people in the room. They don't get invited to the next meeting.

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Don Bluth
05-06-2009, 05:15 PM
...Is the session already over?:confused:
Is there time for one last reply for my work?

What's the question?

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Don Bluth
05-06-2009, 05:16 PM
Another thing I was curious about, will we be doing clean-up on this project?

Let's see how the animation works first. Our hope is to create good animators which is a different kind of thinking from a clean up person's approach. We'll see.

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jeremyhopkins
05-06-2009, 05:18 PM
The horse trainer has such a wonderful face, I wonder if this wouldn't be better in live action. I've always believed that the subjects for animatio films should be things that the live action camera cannot capture.


Thank you for the polite answer and I understand your feelings. Thanks for your time this week and I hope to see everyone next week!

BrioCyrain
05-06-2009, 05:19 PM
I am a new guy, but I have a very keen interest in traditional animation, but I can't draw well and I have stuck with flash for the time being. I plan on getting into drawing classes, but that could be a while. Also I see most of the drawing tutorials aren't up so I feel a bit discouraged.

You can see from my drawing and animations post that I haven't drawn in weeks, I usually draw at least a bit better than that.

Also it seems Flash is almost illegal on this forum so I feel like I need some guidance, and I mean MAJOR guidance... :(

Don Bluth
05-06-2009, 05:20 PM
I guess that's it for the day. Thanks for all the questions guys...

feliceworkshop
05-06-2009, 05:20 PM
...Thank you Don for the precious critiques, I really appretiate all your feedbacks and found this session very inspiring!

Don Bluth
05-06-2009, 05:22 PM
I am a new guy, but I have a very keen interest in traditional animation, but I can't draw well and I have stuck with flash for the time being. I plan on getting into drawing classes, but that could be a while. Also I see most of the drawing tutorials aren't up so I feel a bit discouraged.

You can see from my drawing and animations post that I haven't drawn in weeks, I usually draw at least a bit better than that.

Also it seems Flash is almost illegal on this forum so I feel like I need some guidance, and I mean MAJOR guidance... :(

By no means is Flash animation illegal here. We're trying to teach the principals of traditional animation and if you can grasp them, it will do wonders for your flash techniques.
I'm glad you're here. Don't be afraid or intimidated to post your questions.

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lavallelee
05-06-2009, 05:25 PM
thanks don for all the advice and see you next week, i will have my questions ready :)

JasonCampbell
05-06-2009, 05:26 PM
Let's see how the animation works first. Our hope is to create good animators which is a different kind of thinking from a clean up person's approach. We'll see.

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Understood animation is my focus anyway, but I want to know as much as I can about everything I can regarding the production of 2d animation. It will come in time I hope.

Thanks again for all of this it is appreciated more than I can convey here.

Best,
J.

Don Bluth
05-06-2009, 05:27 PM
...Thank you Don for the precious critiques, I really appretiate all your feedbacks and found this session very inspiring!

How was this piece animated? Paper, Cintiq tablet or flash?
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feliceworkshop
05-06-2009, 05:33 PM
It was hand drawn on paper then scanned and colored in Toon Boom (hence the vectorized look)....Thank you again Don.