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andrew sharp
12-23-2011, 11:29 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=emYBpQ2J7dU&feature=player_embedded#!

arif
12-24-2011, 02:30 AM
wonderful Post Andrew...i have a full Documentary about Miazkai but unfortunately no sub title....:o

OwenWelsh
12-24-2011, 11:30 AM
"He is just a modern boy. -- He lacks a sense of gravity." Awesome find Andrew!

jeremyhopkins
12-24-2011, 01:46 PM
Yeah, these documentaries are great! The Mononoke, Spirited Away and Arrietty documentaries are my favorite if you can find them.

On a side note, we're headed to the Ghibli museum today!

frankenart
12-25-2011, 08:22 PM
one of my heroes,thank ya,sir for sharing.

frankenart
12-25-2011, 08:31 PM
what size paper are they using?(their studio paper) looks pre-ruled. and no bars-- they clip their pages on the light desk.

C. Siemens
12-26-2011, 03:55 AM
Huh, they're animating on top pegs. I've never really tried that.

DNethery
12-27-2011, 11:21 AM
what size paper are they using?(their studio paper) looks pre-ruled. and no bars-- they clip their pages on the light desk.

Huh, they're animating on top pegs. I've never really tried that.

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-3_VUQ8ZwVsQ/TvoqZ7CgxQI/AAAAAAAADrs/DGgosb45mgQ/s500/Japanese_animator.jpg

Yes, top pegs and the peg bars are loose, floating peg bars, not taped down on a disc or the light box. They draw on a flat light box , not tilted up like most North American and European animators , so they can have the peg bar be free floating , not taped down.

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-zx0EzgVXILQ/SgOT-9ajqmI/AAAAAAAADCk/vcQ-NeJjDJQ/s650/Thin_Peg_Bar.jpg
(floating peg bar. in most cases we would expect to see this taped down on a light box or on a plexiglass animation disc, so the disc or light table could be at a tilted angle)


https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-tZyTM6kT_0I/SgNj2H4I0PI/AAAAAAAADCk/V8AU-dxPqMM/s640/Draftingtable_4.jpg
(typical U.S. animation desk set up)


But here is a Japanese animation desk, with flat light box:

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-Qa_48DswCt4/TvooUnTjcgI/AAAAAAAADrI/T2ELTq5fBiw/s726/japanese_animation_desk.jpg


I am so used to working on a tilted/angled surface that I don't think I would like this , but obviously it works for them. (The ergonomics of it make my shoulders and back ache just to look at it. )

C. Siemens
12-27-2011, 02:41 PM
Yes, top pegs and the peg bars are loose, floating peg bars, not taped down on a disc or the light box. They draw on a flat light box , not tilted up like most North American and European animators , so they can have the peg bar be free floating , not taped down.

Not taped down? Does their cleanup department work like that, too, I wonder? I've always done my own cleanup and not only would floating pegs send my stack flying every which way while being flipped, it would also destroy so many of my attempts at steady lines if the pegs and drawings budged as a whole if I shifted while leaning on them.

DNethery
12-27-2011, 03:32 PM
Not taped down? Does their cleanup department work like that, too, I wonder? I've always done my own cleanup and not only would floating pegs send my stack flying every which way while being flipped, it would also destroy so many of my attempts at steady lines if the pegs and drawings budged as a whole if I shifted while leaning on them.

Yes that looks odd to me , too. I don't know how they work other than what I see in the videos. In the making-of video posted it seems like everyone is working on a metal peg bar that is loose , with a stack of drawings on the pegs , flipping and drawing. (I've noticed it before in other Studio Ghibli making-of videos) Were it not for the high-quality of Ghibli's work I would be skeptical about working like that.

Marc_H
12-28-2011, 05:49 AM
That documentary's like 7 hours long. It's great though, to see a feature animation process, without it being made to be entertaining.
How do their spines cope with flat tables like that?

You guys might want to check out "Yasuo Otsuka's Joy in Motion" if you can find it.

frankenart
12-28-2011, 12:15 PM
the paper they are using looks to be 9 or 8 in. by 12 in. instead of 10 x12 in and its pre-ruled out field guide wise.