Who animated this scene ?

[DNethery]

I posted this at the tail end of another thread on "peg bar-less scanning" as a demo of how to register peg holes on drawings scanned off-pegs, but I figured it might not be seen since that was an older topic.

I was really curious if Don can tell us who animated this scene from The Fox and the Hound ? ---

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I've had a copy of this scene for years, but the person who gave it to me didn't have the X-sheet or the scene folder , however someone had written "Glen Keane's" on the last drawing in the scene , which implies that the scene was animated by Glen Keane. However, the drawing style is not typically what we think of as "the Glen Keane style" of animating which is more like this:

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or

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So it doesn't seem that Glen Keane animated the badger scene from Fox and the Hound. Anyone know for sure who did ?

[arif]

no..i dont know...but. for your post i have seen 2 beautiful line tests by Glen keane..Thanks,,is there anything else??

[Don Bluth]

I was really curious if Don can tell us who animated this scene from The Fox and the Hound ? ---


I really don't know. I left Disney before Fox and the Hound was completed. My best guess,though, would be Glen Keane..

[dartzy]

Great tests..

Far as the badger, it could be Keane's. Remember too that it looks like a cleaned up pencil test. Keane got some of his first major scenes on that film, if I remember correctly. His looseness of his art, I'm sure came with his experience and confidence in his animation abilities as he worked on these films. So what we know now as his 'style' may not have started that way..it's a thought. Either way, they are beautiful...I agree...any more??? :D

Kelley

[DNethery]

Great tests..

...any more??? :D

Kelley

A few. ;) I collect good pencil tests wherever I can get them. Some are drawings that are in my collection which I scan or video capture to make pencil tests. Some I find by searching around on YouTube and Vimeo. There is a lot of JUNK on YouTube , but if you know the right search tags to use and follow the trails from certain peoples channels there is also some GOLD on YouTube as well.

Check out my blog. I post stuff there from time to time:

http://hand-drawn-animation.blogspot.com (http://hand-drawn-animation.blogspot.co)

Here are a few of the latest ones I've put up:

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For comparison to the color version:

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Here's another recent one that I scanned and posted from my collection:

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You can see the finished version of this scene on my Portfolio Page. It's the first shot on my Brother Bear reel:

DNethery Portfolio page (http://inklingstudio.typepad.com/animation_portfolio/2007/07/kodas-mom-color.html)

You made a good point about Glen Keane's drawing style developing:


"Far as the badger, it could be Keane's. Remember too that it looks like a cleaned up pencil test. Keane got some of his first major scenes on that film, if I remember correctly. His looseness of his art, I'm sure came with his experience and confidence in his animation abilities as he worked on these films. So what we know now as his 'style' may not have started that way..."

I have seen some of Glen's earlier animation drawings that aren't always as "bold" as his later drawing style developed. So you may be right about that. It's possible. That's why I haven't ID'd it for sure as Glen's , but it could be. (especially if someone else went over the drawings to tie them down ... The pencil test of the badger that I posted isn't a clean-up test , it's still too rough for final clean-up, but possibly an intermediate version by a key assistant to tie it down and put it on model ? Although if you look at the final scene in the movie the model changed quite a bit more from the rough version I posted. )

However, here is a drawing from my collection which I know for certain is Glen's and it's from around the same period , so draw your own conclusions:

http://inklingstudio.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/2007/12/15/glenk_bear.jpg

Look how far he developed though in subtly of his line, still bold and loose, but a lot of assurance here:

http://lh6.ggpht.com/_jL0PYTVd-Zs/Sl4mASOi60I/AAAAAAAABKU/pG_UQOF27sY/s800/GlenKeane_Silver.jpg

[DNethery]

By the way, speaking of finding GOLD on YouTube , did anyone else see this early Don Bluth pencil test ? It's really great ! I'd love to see more of this kind of thing. There's something about seeing the original pencil drawings that is very magical .

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[lavallelee]

thanks David for posting this on your blog

http://www.oscars.org/events-exhibitions/events/2009/kahl.html

lots of videos all about Milt Kahl :)

[arif]

Thanks Dnethery for your wonderful collection sharing among us....its great.....i think, we should find all the gold line tests or others and put them in here...then..we can get all of them easily...

Arif

[rebaccawood911]

I dunno who did this but they have done very beautifully nice work,,,,,,,,,