Lavalle Lee's Drawings and Cartoons

[lavallelee]

here is an instruction page im working on for a flash game

http://4mchan.org/Forum/gallery/2_22_03_11_12_03_22.jpeg

[lavallelee]

yesterday did life drawing! check them out!!

http://www.flashcartoons.org/bluthlearning/3.24.1.jpg

http://www.flashcartoons.org/bluthlearning/3.24.2.jpg

http://www.flashcartoons.org/bluthlearning/3.24.3.jpg

[lavallelee]

more life drawings

http://www.flashcartoons.org/bluthlearning/3.24.4.jpg

http://www.flashcartoons.org/bluthlearning/3.24.5.jpg

http://www.flashcartoons.org/bluthlearning/3.24.6.jpg

[lavallelee]

http://4mchan.org/Forum/gallery/2_18_03_11_10_46_46.jpeg

here is a quick color drawing i did of a concept i have been working on

[lavallelee]

here is some concept characters

http://www.flashcartoons.org/concepts1.jpg

[lavallelee]

more doodles, bodies could use some work :D

http://www.flashcartoons.org/bluthlearning/concept2.jpg

[lavallelee]

here is a drawing of Orangee, he is a costume character who works at Crackerland!

http://4mchan.org/Forum/gallery/2_30_03_11_5_39_17.jpeg

http://4mchan.org/Forum/gallery/2_30_03_11_5_39_22.jpeg

[lavallelee]

a doodle of Mr. Cracker in front of a cracker house

http://4mchan.org/Forum/gallery/2_30_03_11_5_39_11.jpeg

[Ben Sword]

http://4mchan.org/Forum/gallery/2_30_03_11_5_39_17.jpeg


I cant help but picture it red and wearing sunglasses. I miss the 7up Cool Spot commercials.

[lavallelee]

haha, reminds me of a character i made in 2001 a half game half cartoon called Speck

http://flashcartoons.org/speck.html

wow to think that was 10 years ago :eek:

here is my original sketch of Orangee from Crackerland with a bit of story mixed in it, i thought maybe giving him a hole to see through, maybe a type of stem at the top

http://4mchan.org/Forum/gallery/2_31_03_11_7_47_04.jpeg

[lavallelee]

http://4mchan.org/Forum/gallery/2_06_03_11_7_29_47.jpeg

im having chicken tonight for dinner!

[lavallelee]

here is the same chicken only changed into a giant mutant chicken!

http://4mchan.org/Forum/gallery/2_31_03_11_11_40_28.jpeg

[lavallelee]

random dinosaur

http://4mchan.org/Forum/gallery/2_02_04_11_3_30_08.jpeg

and baby dino

[andrew sharp]

haha thats awesome you draw what you eat and your still not a vegitarian :)Good work man you are productive.

[lavallelee]

haha thats awesome you draw what you eat and your still not a vegitarian :)Good work man you are productive.

thanks, i try to draw everyday as much as possible!

Crackerland drawing, Bumby with a new shopping cart suped up

http://4mchan.org/Forum/gallery/2_02_04_11_3_30_05.jpeg

[lavallelee]

http://4mchan.org/Forum/gallery/2_02_04_11_3_30_30.jpeg

a quick doodle of Fred's impostor, the Flamingo Kid!

[lavallelee]

Fred all tied up!

http://4mchan.org/Forum/gallery/2_03_04_11_8_03_36.jpeg

[Rodney]

a quick doodle of Fred's impostor, the Flamingo Kid!

It's the little revelations like this that really pull us in to these stories.
You've got me wondering about these guys adventures again.

I can't help but think that whatever you can't make into an animation would still be prime material for a written novel featuring Crackerland characters.

Keep it up Lavalle! (and lock those ideas in a safe place)

[lavallelee]

It's the little revelations like this that really pull us in to these stories.
You've got me wondering about these guys adventures again.

I can't help but think that whatever you can't make into an animation would still be prime material for a written novel featuring Crackerland characters.

Keep it up Lavalle! (and lock those ideas in a safe place)

thanks Rodney! right now i'm working on story thumbnails, we wrote about 50+ episode ideas. so i will be posting many more Crackerland drawings!

http://4mchan.org/Forum/gallery/2_03_04_11_8_04_17.jpeg

a random doodle cartoon idea :D

[lavallelee]

Tried doing a character from Rodney's topic, i really like the look of this guy :laughing:

http://www.donbluthanimation.com/forum/showthread.php?t=374&page=11 Rodney's Original

http://4mchan.org/Forum/gallery/2_04_04_11_10_55_36.jpeg

[Rodney]

Hehe! I love him. :)

The extra bulk up top is something that works really well on him.
Getting the exaggeration into the large upper body in comparison to small lower body would really lend well to animate.

[lavallelee]

Hehe! I love him. :)

The extra bulk up top is something that works really well on him.
Getting the exaggeration into the large upper body in comparison to small lower body would really lend well to animate.

thanks rodney! i hope to see you animate him one day!

http://4mchan.org/Forum/gallery/2_04_04_11_10_40_13.jpeg

watched Nocturna today, really fun animation and good story!

did some study :)

[lavallelee]

another Nocturna study

http://4mchan.org/Forum/gallery/2_04_04_11_10_40_55.jpeg

[andrew sharp]

Really well drawn Man, im searching everywhere for that movie where did you find it? :)

[lavallelee]

Really well drawn Man, im searching everywhere for that movie where did you find it? :)

A friend of mine had the import. I am sure you can find more info on Google. Really good animation hope you get to see it!

http://4mchan.org/Forum/gallery/2_04_04_11_10_42_44.jpeg

More!

[lavallelee]

Last Nocturna drawing of the night.

http://4mchan.org/Forum/gallery/2_04_04_11_10_41_15.jpeg

[lavallelee]

life drawing! this time we had a costumed character, she dressed up like the girl on Sucker Punch, even brought props!

http://www.flashcartoons.org/bluthlearning/3-7-11.1.jpg

http://www.flashcartoons.org/bluthlearning/3-7-11.2.jpg

http://www.flashcartoons.org/bluthlearning/3-7-11.4.jpg

[lavallelee]

more life drawing!

http://www.flashcartoons.org/bluthlearning/3-7-11.5.jpg

http://www.flashcartoons.org/bluthlearning/3-7-11.6.jpg

http://www.flashcartoons.org/bluthlearning/3-7-11.7.jpg

[OwenWelsh]

Wow Lav your life drawings keep getting better and better! My favorite is the one where she is laying down on her side. It has a nice flow to it.

[arif]

last 2 posts have some errors??..i never got chance to see last figure drawings....it is simple hanged all the time though i am using 1mb kbps speed in my office...!!

[lavallelee]

Wow Lav your life drawings keep getting better and better! My favorite is the one where she is laying down on her side. It has a nice flow to it.

thanks owen! that means a lot coming from you, you have great life drawing skills, any advice on improving?


last 2 posts have some errors??..i never got chance to see last figure drawings....it is simple hanged all the time though i am using 1mb kbps speed in my office...!!

that is weird, try the direct links, does that work??

http://www.flashcartoons.org/bluthlearning/3-7-11.6.jpg

http://www.flashcartoons.org/bluthlearning/3-7-11.7.jpg

More life drawings,

http://www.flashcartoons.org/bluthlearning/3-7-11.8.jpg

http://www.flashcartoons.org/bluthlearning/3-7-11.9.jpg

[lavallelee]

http://www.flashcartoons.org/bluthlearning/3-7-11.10.jpg

http://www.flashcartoons.org/bluthlearning/3-7-11.11.jpg

http://www.flashcartoons.org/bluthlearning/3-7-11.12.jpg

more life drawing!

[Rodney]

You sure seem to be having fun! :)

The thing I like most about these latest life drawings is how loose and natural they are.

You haven't numbered these yet but I assume you'll be asking Don for some feedback? If you do I'd be interested in seeing what areas of each of the drawings he likes (i.e. perhaps he could draw a circle around the areas that please his eye.

I suppose in a similar fashion he could circle those areas where something looks wrong but my thought here is to accentuate the positive. Anything inside the circle would be fit for minor refinement while anything not circled would by extension be an area worth studying.

I'd be curious to see how that mirrors my own thoughts on your drawings.

[andrew sharp]

Very well done Lavallelee your drawings all look like they have attitude, they are not maniquins. Your line work is what gets me every time its so loose but it captures the essence. Keep it up man its looking awesome:)

[lavallelee]

You sure seem to be having fun! :)

The thing I like most about these latest life drawings is how loose and natural they are.

You haven't numbered these yet but I assume you'll be asking Don for some feedback? If you do I'd be interested in seeing what areas of each of the drawings he likes (i.e. perhaps he could draw a circle around the areas that please his eye.

I suppose in a similar fashion he could circle those areas where something looks wrong but my thought here is to accentuate the positive. Anything inside the circle would be fit for minor refinement while anything not circled would by extension be an area worth studying.

I'd be curious to see how that mirrors my own thoughts on your drawings.

I was very happy with Don's comments on my life drawing. I can still remember showing him my first life drawings back in 09' I needed to improve so much!


Very well done Lavallelee your drawings all look like they have attitude, they are not maniquins. Your line work is what gets me every time its so loose but it captures the essence. Keep it up man its looking awesome:)

Thanks Andrew, if I can, I will be doing life drawing for life. So I can keep improving.

One thing that I need to learn how to draw are weapons. I usually draw guns exactly the same way since I was a young pup. So here is a machine gun study!

http://4mchan.org/Forum/gallery/2_15_04_11_7_56_16.jpeg

[Rodney]

Lavalle,
For props it'd be good to see what you are using for reference. Assuming you aren't just creating from imagination. My suggestion would be to put the reference somewhere in with the drawing for all to see.

Outside of reference my thought here would be that with man-made objects such as these you've really got to accentuate the straight lines and planes in the object. In other words... the opposite of an organic character/drawing... with emphasis on more rather than less symmetry. In my experience man made objects are just full of symmetry.

As I was typing this I was looking around my living room to see if I was completing misinterpreting my thoughts on this but the evidence seems to speak for itself... almost everywhere I look I see man made things with a great deal of straight lines and symmetry. There are literally thousands of rectangles two selves full of video cases account for a lot of these). Even the softer shapes (couch and chair) have a lot of symmetry.

Interesting. You've helped me learn something new again today. :)

Added: Don't be afraid to draw some straight lines even with a ruler if necessary to get at that straightness.

[lavallelee]

your right, to be honest i didn't think to use a ruler, but i will for now on for these kind of objects as you can see in my next drawing chairs, table all bad perspective wise and line wise.

i really wanted to attend that layout workshop but just couldn't afford the class at the time. :(

http://4mchan.org/Forum/gallery/2_18_04_11_11_06_05.jpeg

[Ben Sword]

http://www.flashcartoons.org/bluthlearning/3-7-11.11.jpg

I like this one, nice job!

[Rodney]

I'm liking this one.
So simple in concept it approaches genius:

Two unlikely characters...
One fast food restaurant...
The greatest escape...
--------------
'Chick 'n Slice'
--------------
Coming soon to a theater near you in hand drawn animation!

I like how you've managed to make Chick's bone appendages into feet.
Now, if he can just use them to escape!

Run Chick Run!

Nicely drawn Lavalle. :)


your right, to be honest i didn't think to use a ruler, but i will for now on for these kind of objects as you can see in my next drawing chairs, table all bad perspective wise and line wise.

i really wanted to attend that layout workshop but just couldn't afford the class at the time. :(

http://4mchan.org/Forum/gallery/2_18_04_11_11_06_05.jpeg

[lavallelee]

thanks ben!

and rodney thanks for the inspiring words, i finished the storyboard for chick n' slick and now im putting together an animatic, if you want i can give you a sneak peak! :)

here is a elmer fudd study!

http://4mchan.org/Forum/gallery/2_20_04_11_2_56_22.jpeg

[andrew sharp]

PIZZA POWER thats so cool man love the characters you come up with:D

[lavallelee]

PIZZA POWER thats so cool man love the characters you come up with:D

thanks andrew! next im studying looney tunes backgrounds i really want that style for chick n' slice

http://www.flashcartoons.org/bluthlearning/looneytunesbgstudy1.jpg

[lavallelee]

more bg study

http://www.flashcartoons.org/bluthlearning/looneytunesbgstudy2.jpg

[lavallelee]

i really like how the bed turned out

http://www.flashcartoons.org/bluthlearning/looneytunesbgstudy4.jpg

a kitchen scene in need of rulers!

http://www.flashcartoons.org/bluthlearning/looneytunesbgstudy3.jpg

[lavallelee]

http://www.flashcartoons.org/bluthlearning/looneytunesbgstudy5.jpg



http://www.flashcartoons.org/bluthlearning/looneytunesbgstudy6.jpg

^ i like this one

[andrew sharp]

Great work my friend the panneling is awesome http://www.flashcartoons.org/bluthlearning/looneytunesbgstudy3.jpg

[Rodney]

Wow Lavalle,
You are really hitting your stride here.
I find those to be wonderful layouts. (specifically for limited animation)

I especially like the solid construction and the simplicity.
That is something I need to work on myself. I can always add more detail but it's harder to take it away once it's already there.

I have to say I like the logo work you did on the word 'Escape!'
If you could write/draw out the alphabet in that lettering I can turn it into a Font set for you. You'd be able to type in that font style and it'd be good practice for me.

As far as any sneak preview is concerned... you know I'm always game! :)
As always: rodney (dot) baker at gmail (dot) com

I would encourage you to do some layouts that aren't restricted to the standard rectangular screen. Work in some layouts that will facilitate panning and camera movement. Draw a top view plan and chart out where each of the backgrounds would be if seen through a camera (i.e. actually draw the camera). If this isn't clear please let me know and I'll be more specific.

Rock on Lavalle! :)

Edit: I understand these may all be studies you've done from the backgrounds of animated sequences. That doesn't detract a bit from how cool these are to me. Just as with your gun I'd love to see a side by side comparison but understand that when viewing scenes on TV that'd be a tough order to fill. The results speak for themselves.

[lavallelee]

thanks andrew! today i plan on doing more bg study

rodney also thanks for checking out my animatic! it is my first time actually making an animatic, usually i go from storyboard to animating in flash, never really time stuff out, but this is probably a better idea

i also drew these today :)

http://4mchan.org/Forum/gallery/2_25_04_11_6_30_29.jpeg

http://4mchan.org/Forum/gallery/2_25_04_11_6_11_11.gif

[lavallelee]

a random doodle of a possum

http://4mchan.org/Forum/gallery/2_28_04_11_7_20_00.jpeg

[OwenWelsh]

Nice possum Lavalle. I like his big tail and big eyes.

[arif]

i have noticed 2 major things in your 2 drawings...just want to point it out...here it is..hope, you dont mind.

http://i622.photobucket.com/albums/tt308/arifnbd/kinjo-1.jpg
http://i622.photobucket.com/albums/tt308/arifnbd/kinjo1.jpg

[lavallelee]

Thanks arif, but you see I was trying to capture a style that I really like from Powerpuff Girls.

Here is the Professor from Powerpuff Girls

http://4mchan.org/Forum/gallery/2_29_04_11_1_04_00.jpeg

[arif]

oh...ok.....:D

[lavallelee]

:p thanks for the help too arif, Don says the same thing, no parallels!

here are some Jay O' Gator concepts of mine

http://4mchan.org/Forum/gallery/2_02_05_11_8_12_50.jpeg

http://4mchan.org/Forum/gallery/2_02_05_11_8_12_25.jpeg

http://4mchan.org/Forum/gallery/2_02_05_11_8_12_34.jpeg

[3ddrew]

Great work on the gator, Lavalle! In a few lines, you've really given this character a great personality. Very appealing! :D

[lavallelee]

thanks drew! :D

here is a sketch from my cartoon idea

http://4mchan.org/Forum/gallery/2_11_05_11_12_07_12.jpeg

[lavallelee]

http://4mchan.org/Forum/gallery/2_11_05_11_12_01_44.jpeg

i think 1 is the best for slice, adding shading now

[lavallelee]

http://4mchan.org/Forum/gallery/2_12_05_11_7_16_34.jpeg

final design, with shadow (i'm not the best at shading.. but i tried!)

[SpiralEFX]

Yummy first cartoon character i want to Eat! i like simple design alot of appeal!

[Rodney]

Perfection in pizza characters if I ever saw it.
Great job Lavalle. :)

[lavallelee]

Yummy first cartoon character i want to Eat! i like simple design alot of appeal!

wait till you see chick!


Perfection in pizza characters if I ever saw it.
Great job Lavalle. :)

thanks Rodney, here are 3 concept designs of chick, hmm which one will i choose :D

http://4mchan.org/Forum/gallery/2_13_05_11_1_08_38.jpeg

[andrew sharp]

Haha cool man i like the asymetry in the third meat head:) and the shadows in 2:) Keep on rockin man

[lavallelee]

2 is going to be final design

here they are together!

http://4mchan.org/Forum/gallery/2_13_05_11_1_04_50.jpeg

[lavallelee]

some crackerland doodles i did

http://www.4m4life.com/Forum/gallery/fredsinkhole.jpg

http://www.4m4life.com/Forum/gallery/haunted.jpg

http://www.4m4life.com/Forum/gallery/ladderjay.jpg

[lavallelee]

Crackerland doodles and more

http://www.4m4life.com/Forum/gallery/bumbyhorse.jpg

http://www.4m4life.com/Forum/gallery/mermaid.jpg

i did some horse study, otherwise my horse would look like he's from another planet!
http://www.4m4life.com/Forum/gallery/horse.jpg

[lavallelee]

more and more crackerland!

http://www.4m4life.com/Forum/gallery/bumbyjay.jpg

running out of ink
http://www.4m4life.com/Forum/gallery/paradebumby.jpg

http://www.4m4life.com/Forum/gallery/picniccrackerland.jpg

[SpiralEFX]

Your becoming a good story artist! nice quick gestures to capture attitude &
mood

[Rodney]

Oh Yeah! (Happy Dance)
I picked #2 as the real chick! Do I win a prize? :)


Your becoming a good story artist! nice quick gestures to capture attitude & mood

I agree. If you are drawing those as fast as I think you are I'm impressed by your storytelling. Each sketch really captures the essence of the moment.

Keep up that pace Lavalle!

[lavallelee]

Your becoming a good story artist! nice quick gestures to capture attitude &
mood
thanks Les! a lot more to come


Oh Yeah! (Happy Dance)
I picked #2 as the real chick! Do I win a prize? :)



maybe if you picked it before i decided :laughing:

http://www.4m4life.com/Forum/gallery/spaced.jpg

http://www.4m4life.com/Forum/gallery/fredtube.jpg

[lavallelee]

The Crackerland 500!

http://WWW.4m4life.com/Forum/gallery/500.jpg

[lavallelee]

another Crackerland story sketch

http://www.4m4life.com/Forum/gallery/jaylotto.jpg

[lavallelee]

tried tracing & coloring a doodle of jay :D

http://www.4m4life.com/Forum/gallery/jay3.jpg

http://www.4m4life.com/Forum/gallery/jayarcade.jpg

[andrew sharp]

These are great story telling drawings man.The last Jay in colour is such a great design:D

[lavallelee]

Thanks Andrew! I still think Jay needs to have a final design. Just can't seem to find it...

Here is an animation test I did with the coaching of Beatrice!

http://www.donbluthanimation.com/videos.php?showvideo=679

[lavallelee]

here is bumby with the villian of the show "Skipper"

Skipper is trying to entice Bumby to leave Crackerland and join him at Whizzy World

http://www.4m4life.com/Forum/gallery/skipperenticing.jpg

[lavallelee]

a random crow

http://4mchan.org/Forum/gallery/2_24_05_11_10_28_49.jpeg

[frankenart]

these are all really great,lava.if yall ever make crackerland shirts i want one.

[lavallelee]

thanks frankenart! :D if crackerland gets picked up by a network their will be tons of tshirts to choose from!

here is a jay sketch i just did

http://4mchan.org/Forum/gallery/2_26_05_11_8_49_15.jpeg

[lavallelee]

A story sketch from our movie idea, lol

http://4mchan.org/Forum/gallery/2_29_05_11_1_42_32.jpeg

[lavallelee]

did a fan art for my friend Greg's cartoon called 8 bit strange

http://4mchan.org/Forum/gallery/2_30_05_11_10_28_09.jpeg

[lavallelee]

a story sketch :laughing:

http://4mchan.org/Forum/gallery/2_30_05_11_1_32_39.jpeg

[lavallelee]

http://4mchan.org/Forum/gallery/2_01_06_11_7_34_05.jpeg

a game menu screen i'm working on

[andrew sharp]

Looks like a fun Game Lavallelee :D you got alot of fingers in a lot of pies my friend:D keep up the good work:D

[lavallelee]

thanks Andrew! I love pie :D

here is a doodle of jay, i should of done something different for one of the arms

http://4mchan.org/Forum/gallery/2_03_06_11_9_46_37.jpeg

[Ben Sword]

i should of done something different for one of the arms.

It looks good to me, like he is getting ready to jump into a pond or something.

[lavallelee]

thanks Ben! :D

I just purchased Pocahontas the 2 disc set and it came with TONS of bonus features. One special feature was Glen Keane drawing Pocahontas and I thought I would draw as he taught! WOW! Does he draw really fast!

http://4mchan.org/Forum/gallery/2_05_06_11_5_28_44.jpeg

I tried...

[Rodney]

One thing I immediately note with Glen Keane is his utter confidence when putting down his lines. He's not as concerned with accuracy as much as he is with the emotional content there. If his first line creates a form that is too wide in his next pass will run on the inside of that one and narrow it. Don does the same with his penciling while darkening the lines that he knows are in the right place.

Of course with Glen's approach it does help to have a huge thick pencil that forces you ignore the piddly details.

If you have access to a large white board you can get at a lot of the same speed in drawing (and even be able to erase and refine the important details). Be sure to take a digital photo of the drawing after completion so you can manipulated it digitally. :)

[lavallelee]

I have been watching a lot of Glen Keane youtube videos. The one where he flips the Aladdin scene is just wow!

I sometimes draw on whiteboards, but usually I use those to keep track of bills and such, lol.

Last night had life drawing! So happy it started back up.

http://www.4m4life.com/art/6.9.11.1.jpg

http://www.4m4life.com/art/6.9.11.2.jpg

http://www.4m4life.com/art/6.9.11.3.jpg

http://www.4m4life.com/art/6.9.11.4.jpg

[lavallelee]

more life drawing!

http://www.4m4life.com/art/6.9.11.7.jpg

http://www.4m4life.com/art/6.9.11.8.jpg

http://www.4m4life.com/art/6.9.11.5.jpg

http://www.4m4life.com/art/6.9.11.6.jpg

[lavallelee]

more life drawing, tried marker

http://www.4m4life.com/art/6.9.11.9.jpg

http://www.4m4life.com/art/6.9.11.10.jpg

http://www.4m4life.com/art/6.9.11.11.jpg

[lavallelee]

here is a character from chick n' slice

the pizza delivery guy

http://www.flashcartoons.org/bluthlearning/pizzaguy.jpg

[lavallelee]

Went to the animation academy yesterday and drew pluto!

http://4mchan.org/Forum/gallery/2_22_06_11_8_30_12.jpeg

[lavallelee]

http://4mchan.org/Forum/gallery/2_22_06_11_2_12_40.jpeg

here is the title screen inked/colored :rolleyes:

[akkushisu]

Man! It's been a while since I replied to your thread, Lavalle. Good to see you've been keeping yourself so busy! I like the various studies and designs you've been posting. :)

Regarding your latest picture, my feelings for it are kind of a mixed bag. The layout is good. It's not a boring design by any stretch of the imagination! The colors are nice and vivid. The character also really adds a lot to the overall composition. Nice work! :D

There are some things you could really stand to improve on, and I hope you're not offended at me pointing these out. For starters, you used a font for the title and menu options. This looks kind of lazy. If you hand draw a title graphic and maybe put a graphic behind it, (like a beach ball, for example) your title will really pop! (Hopefully not like a beach ball! XD) Next, the actual background also looks too simple. Try to add some more depth and shape to the clouds, make the ground level and if it's grass, add some random grass blades or plants poking up for variety. Finally, try to vary the thickness of your lnk lines. I'm assuming you draw with a tablet with pressure sensitivity so this shouldn't be difficult.

Again, my apologies if I've offended you, Lavalle. Keep up the good work, man! Oh! And lots of luck to you on your Cracker Land pitch! :D

[lavallelee]

Thanks for the critique, you are right. I am terrible at bgs! I know it! I have improved with pencil and paper character drawing. But backgrounds I usually make look flat. Same with coloring, their is so much I still need to learn.

I really want to be able to draw out a background with great perspectives, then paint them to be amazing!

Like these:

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_QdHn8FT7SdY/TJ2XvM_oXvI/AAAAAAAAJ8A/EhkMb81JcII/s1600/oliver103panSM.jpg

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_QdHn8FT7SdY/SKjzYOK5xjI/AAAAAAAADhE/pjdZiDIjTuI/s1600-h/brain01sm.jpg

I will work in it and try to make it better! :D

[akkushisu]

There's no shame in admitting that you're bad at backgrounds, Lavalle. They're one of the hardest things to get down in a picture. Perspective can be really tricky, too. Just don't be discouraged by your setbacks. :)

In animation, you're striving to create the illusion of life, and in still images and backgrounds, you're aiming to give the illusion of depth. Even with simple colors and shapes it's possible to accomplish this. I'd suggest you start with outdoor landscapes and then tackle urban settings or interiors later as they can be more difficult and require a lot of skill with perspective. When you get the chance, go outdoors and take a sketchbook with you. Try drawing your surroundings - trees, houses, roads, and so on. Try drawing them from different angles. I can't remember which artist said this, but what you're trying to do is become a student of nature.

Probably the best advice I could give would be to just take your time and not rush yourself. You've got some real talent and you're a very creative and imaginative artist, Lavalle. Just keep soaking up knowledge from Don and other sources and you'll be drawing those really awesome painted backgrounds before you know it. ;)

[lavallelee]

I took your advice and asked Don about backgrounds. He ended up giving us an example, here is my attempt at what he did!

http://4mchan.org/Forum/gallery/2_22_06_11_8_42_20.jpeg

[andrew sharp]

Good work lavallelee I think we should get together as a group and bring back layout as a course:)

[lavallelee]

Or dvds! I was happy to hear that Don is releasing a new Animate dvd. Hopefully next will be a layout dvd!

[akkushisu]

Really cool job on your background sketch, Lavalle! Lots of stuff going on and really good use of straight lines. Keep up the good work, man! :D

[Rodney]

You did an awesome job capturing Don's layout from the Seminar.
As always you can count me in as someone that is interested in learning more about layout for animation.

Regarding your interest in backgrounds, I'm there with you. I do think that you may want to think in terms of priorities. If the time you spend on backgrounds can be better spent on animation, design and story it may be ideal to create the rough layouts and then have others paint them? Of course even then, it won't hurt to paint a few backgrounds to enhance your understanding and application of layouts.

I suppose what I'm saying is... don't stretch yourself too thin. :)

I'm interested in backgrounds for the same reasons but because I know a lot of any animation production must be farmed out to others and so much of the animation relies on the strength of a good layout, my personal interest in layout is roughly 100% times more than what it is for the final painted backgrounds.

This is something I feel is particularly underlined when Don emphasizes the separation of the term Layout from that of Background. They are both extremely important but unlike the final Background, Layout is important to planning and it precedes the Animation. After the Layout, Background production can then move forward independently from the Animation (and simultaneously) on a separate track.

[lavallelee]

Really cool job on your background sketch, Lavalle! Lots of stuff going on and really good use of straight lines. Keep up the good work, man! :D

thanks! i tried to make it look like don's the best i could :)


You did an awesome job capturing Don's layout from the Seminar.
As always you can count me in as someone that is interested in learning more about layout for animation.

Regarding your interest in backgrounds, I'm there with you. I do think that you may want to think in terms of priorities. If the time you spend on backgrounds can be better spent on animation, design and story it may be ideal to create the rough layouts and then have others paint them? Of course even then, it won't hurt to paint a few backgrounds to enhance your understanding and application of layouts.

I suppose what I'm saying is... don't stretch yourself too thin. :)

I'm interested in backgrounds for the same reasons but because I know a lot of any animation production must be farmed out to others and so much of the animation relies on the strength of a good layout, my personal interest in layout is roughly 100% times more than what it is for the final painted backgrounds.

This is something I feel is particularly underlined when Don emphasizes the separation of the term Layout from that of Background. They are both extremely important but unlike the final Background, Layout is important to planning and it precedes the Animation. After the Layout, Background production can then move forward independently from the Animation (and simultaneously) on a separate track.

Thanks Rodney. I have been wanting to take some kind of classes on layout and backgrounds here in orlando, but they are costly. $250 or more for a single day. For watercolor backgrounds class, painting, they even have some instructional life drawing.

One day. I just hope to get a better understanding of layout and be able to do it well.

http://4mchan.org/Forum/gallery/2_24_06_11_12_25_44.jpeg

A storyboard scene.

[lavallelee]

here is bumby with his teddy

http://4mchan.org/Forum/gallery/2_28_06_11_7_57_17.jpeg

[Rodney]

You'd sell a ton of those in the gift shop. :)

[lavallelee]

thanks rodney!! lol

here is an animation of a cat, i got help and advice from beatrice with this cat :)

http://www.donbluthanimation.com/videos.php?showvideo=760

[lavallelee]

Here us a bg I tried doing of an opening of a tunnel

http://4mchan.org/Forum/gallery/2_30_06_11_1_10_51.jpeg

[Rodney]

I really like that animation of the cat Lavalle.
Very nice!

You are really hitting your stride there. :)

[frankenart]

these backgrounds are looking nice too.

[andrew sharp]

sweet work on the pouncing cat:D

[jeremyhopkins]

Your cat animation is the best animation you've done so far. Save it; it's a break through test for you.

[OwenWelsh]

Wow Lavalle,

Nice cat animation. I love his anticipation!

[lavallelee]

I really like that animation of the cat Lavalle.
Very nice!

You are really hitting your stride there.

thanks Rodney!


these backgrounds are looking nice too.

I hope to get better at layouts, I am going to try one or two a week.


sweet work on the pouncing cat

thanks andrew!


Your cat animation is the best animation you've done so far. Save it; it's a break through test for you.

it is saved, i will upload more animation soon, i hope i can do as good!


Wow Lavalle,

Nice cat animation. I love his anticipation!

thanks Owen! Don said that he lost volume when he was in anticipation, i will work on that next time!

practicing pooh in anticipation for the movie!

http://4mchan.org/Forum/gallery/2_07_07_11_3_00_22.jpeg

http://4mchan.org/Forum/gallery/2_07_07_11_2_58_42.jpeg

http://4mchan.org/Forum/gallery/2_07_07_11_3_00_06.jpeg

http://4mchan.org/Forum/gallery/2_07_07_11_2_58_56.jpeg

[lavallelee]

another piglet!

http://4mchan.org/Forum/gallery/2_07_07_11_7_51_06.jpeg

[OwenWelsh]

I can't wait for Pooh to come out. Just saw another trailer on TV. Disney is pushing this movie hard. I hope its great.

[SpiralEFX]

looking good,keep it up.... Return to classical animation 1 week!

[lavallelee]

I can't wait for Pooh to come out. Just saw another trailer on TV. Disney is pushing this movie hard. I hope its great.
Me too, it will be great. Best thing is that Disney will market it at all the parks for years to come. So it will be a hit no matter what!


looking good,keep it up.... Return to classical animation 1 week!

I plan to go atleast 3 times!

Here is a preview/screengrab of my new toon Chick N Slice!

http://4mchan.org/Forum/gallery/2_08_07_11_12_31_03.jpeg

my backgrounding sucks!

[lavallelee]

here is a Eeyore study

http://4mchan.org/Forum/gallery/2_12_07_11_6_50_40.jpeg

[andrew sharp]

Your drawings are always so full of humour:)

[lavallelee]

then i hope you like my next one!!

Stealing Winnie the Pooh's theater release date is like stealing his honey!

http://4mchan.org/Forum/gallery/2_13_07_11_5_03_08.jpeg

[Ben Sword]

http://4mchan.org/Forum/gallery/2_13_07_11_5_03_08.jpeg

Please let it be true! Now where is that wishing star?

[lavallelee]

Ben: If only it was true.. It will be okay, Pooh will live forever!

Just finished a Crackerland game called,

"Beach Ball Bumby"

http://flashcartoons.org/Games/bumby.jpg

http://flashcartoons.org/Games/BeachBallBumby.html <- Click Here to Play

[Rodney]

Had fun playing the game Lavalle! :)

Didn't get particularly far yet...

Excellent choice in banjo music.

[Ben Sword]

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/284711_249215985088903_100000015094688_1089026_563 4200_n.jpg

Gave it a few try's that was the best I could do. I would recommend putting in some sort of warning when the flight hat wears out. It always seems to drop me right on a rock. :laughing:

[arif]

ohhhh...the game is too hard for me...i even could not sustain for 10 seconds...ahahahaah

[lavallelee]

Thanks you guys!! i am happy you enjoyed it!! Les and I are in talks with some iphone programmers, maybe we can get Beach Ball Bumby on the iphone!!!

I have some AWESOME NEWS!!! NASA SENT BUMBY INTO OUTER SPACE!
A few weeks back I saw advertisements from NASA on sending your name and picture into outer space! I thought this would be a great way to immortalize Bumby the Manatee! So I entered Bumby and NASA accepted him! I think he might be even the first cartoon character to be sent into space this way! Here is the certificate NASA gave me proving that Bumby is in SPACE!!

http://4mchan.org/Forum/gallery/2_21_07_11_10_25_52.jpeg

[lavallelee]

last night i was talking to the voice actor who did the voice of Vinnie the chik Costello and it got me doodling Vinnie again!

http://4mchan.org/Forum/gallery/2_22_07_11_7_46_28.jpeg

i do miss vinnie, i need to make more! hopefully soon

[lavallelee]

back to life drawing! i am a bit rusty

http://www.4m4life.com/art/lifedrawing721-1.jpg

http://www.4m4life.com/art/lifedrawing721-2.jpg

http://www.4m4life.com/art/lifedrawing721-3.jpg

http://www.4m4life.com/art/lifedrawing721-4.jpg

[lavallelee]

more life drawing

http://www.4m4life.com/art/lifedrawing721-5.jpg

http://www.4m4life.com/art/lifedrawing721-6.jpg

http://www.4m4life.com/art/lifedrawing721-7.jpg

http://www.4m4life.com/art/lifedrawing721-8.jpg

[lavallelee]

even more life drawing!

http://www.4m4life.com/art/lifedrawing721-9.jpg

http://www.4m4life.com/art/lifedrawing721-10.jpg

http://www.4m4life.com/art/lifedrawing721-11.jpg

http://www.4m4life.com/art/lifedrawing721-12.jpg

[SpiralEFX]

Nice life drawing!!!! Very nice quick gesture studies!!!! I see why Don Bluth says your stuff very Picasso like!

[lavallelee]

thanks Les!!! here is a few more!

http://www.4m4life.com/art/lifedrawing721-13.jpg

http://www.4m4life.com/art/lifedrawing721-14.jpg

http://www.4m4life.com/art/lifedrawing721-15.jpg

http://www.4m4life.com/art/lifedrawing721-16.jpg

[lavallelee]

here is the last of the life drawings, i will post more life drawings when i take the next class! :)

http://www.4m4life.com/art/lifedrawing721-17.jpg

[lavallelee]

Thanks to aidanani09 for posting that website that shows images for any given amount of time.

I drew this tiger with only 60 seconds.. from now on i will increase the time to 2-4 minutes so i can capture more!

http://4mchan.org/Forum/gallery/2_27_07_11_7_07_37.jpeg

[frankenart]

love your rendering skills,awesome stuff,lava.

[lavallelee]

Thanks frankenart!!!! :)

I know that my new cartoon "Chick n' Slice" is going to take some time to finish, so I will post sneak peaks. Here is the intro, I also finished 3 scenes already but I have many many to do still.

enjoy the intro!

http://www.flashcartoons.org/bluthlearning/ChickNSliceIntro.html

[lavallelee]

some reference for my next scene :D

http://4mchan.org/Forum/gallery/2_02_08_11_1_37_22.jpeg

[Rodney]

Hehe! Nice one Lavalle. :)
It's amazing you captured a photo of him in the wild like that.
Boy doesn't he looked surprised.

That'd make a great movie poster.
I can see it as one of those huge cardboard stands that greet you and tease into wanting to see it out in the movie theater lobby.

'Slice'
-image-
12.25.2012

[lavallelee]

Thanks Rodney! I sure hope I can finish Chick n Slice by 12.25.11 at least!

What I would give to do a cartoon mash up with live action. I have a few ideas I came up with a few years back even! Just have no clue how to do it.

[frankenart]

really looking forward to checking this out,lava,cant wait.geez its only 10 am here but im craving pizza.

[lavallelee]

i have had pizza a lot recently because i needed as much reference as possible!

here is a background, really rough. this is an older concept before i used a pizza box for reference

tonight Im getting a barrel of kfc or popeyes chicken for more reference. i'm going to set it all up take a picture and try again!

http://4mchan.org/Forum/gallery/2_05_08_11_8_19_54.jpeg

[lavallelee]

one thing Florida has a lot of is BUGS!

here is a palmetto violinist

http://4mchan.org/Forum/gallery/2_08_08_11_3_10_53.jpeg

wasn't sure exactly how a violin is held, next time i will use reference! :rolleyes:

[KayMartha12]

The end of the violin goes under the chin, but I did not notice that until you mentioned it! The drawing reads well.

[lavallelee]

thanks Kay!

Today i watched Rock-a-Doodle, paused it and drew Chanticleer! I did a few more studies that turned out terrible! I have to stop taking breaks.. I just have been so swamped with web design work!

http://4mchan.org/Forum/gallery/2_10_08_11_6_50_22.jpeg

[lavallelee]

here is a Fred i drew/colored for Crackerland!

http://4mchan.org/Forum/gallery/2_15_08_11_9_05_30.jpeg

[dentitov]

wonderful idea :)

[Ben Sword]

Cool Chanticleer, I keep meaning to try and draw from scenes in movies. I'm usually watching a movie with someone though so I dont really get a chance to study the scenes as much as I would like to.

[lavallelee]

wonderful idea :)

thanks dentitov!


Cool Chanticleer, I keep meaning to try and draw from scenes in movies. I'm usually watching a movie with someone though so I dont really get a chance to study the scenes as much as I would like to.

Same here, It has been a pretty busy summer..

But some good news! Chick n Slice is coming along nicely!

http://4mchan.org/Forum/gallery/2_23_08_11_7_02_49.jpeg

[OwenWelsh]

Haha I like how Mr. Slice is coming along. Are his feet made of cheese or bread? Funny little character :). Strangely enough he also makes me hungry.

[Josh Lokan]

I always enjoy the simplicity and how you get right to the point in your drawings. That's something I'm still working on. Well done and keep it up.

[andrew sharp]

Great job on capturing humour:)

[lavallelee]

Haha I like how Mr. Slice is coming along. Are his feet made of cheese or bread? Funny little character :). Strangely enough he also makes me hungry.

both, cheese on top of the bread with some sauce in between the two :laughing:


I always enjoy the simplicity and how you get right to the point in your drawings. That's something I'm still working on. Well done and keep it up.

now i just have to figure out how to do awesome detail drawings with color!


Great job on capturing humour

thanks andrew!

here is a random mole character :)

http://4mchan.org/Forum/gallery/2_30_08_11_10_06_00.jpeg

[andrew sharp]

Haha thats such a great look:)

[SpiralEFX]

great character design, love the rough look, keep em coming!

[Rodney]

here is a random mole character

I like him. He's already got some built-in business to be doing while being animated. :)

I'm wondering... this is perhaps too much of a stereotypical mole design but I'll offer the thought here:

What if you pinpointed his pupils to make it seem as though he has poor vision or doesn't particular care for the sunlight? Then when he pulls his glasses (sunglasses?) down his pupils might become extremely big.

Just a stray thought... I like him as is!

[lavallelee]

Haha thats such a great look:)

Thanks!


great character design, love the rough look, keep em coming!

Will do!


I like him. He's already got some built-in business to be doing while being animated. :)

I'm wondering... this is perhaps too much of a stereotypical mole design but I'll offer the thought here:

What if you pinpointed his pupils to make it seem as though he has poor vision or doesn't particular care for the sunlight? Then when he pulls his glasses (sunglasses?) down his pupils might become extremely big.

Just a stray thought... I like him as is!

I plan on putting him in a upcoming cartoon! Today Stan Sakai (creator of Usagi Yojimbo) said he loved the design of the mole so I have to put him in a toon! Now he just needs a name.

Also in other news!

A smear I made for the cartoon "Convict in Kindergarten" made the "Smears and Other Animation Gimmicks" website! http://animationsmears.tumblr.com/post/8062880265/this-is-a-smear-i-did-right-after-getting-my-first

[andrew sharp]

Congratulations Lavallalee your kicking butt and taking names:D

[lavallelee]

thanks andrew, did some Crackerland sketches!

http://www.flashcartoons.org/bluthlearning/freddy1.jpg

http://www.flashcartoons.org/bluthlearning/bumby1.jpg

[lavallelee]

Drew this today at the Animation Academy at Disney World

http://4mchan.org/Forum/gallery/2_14_09_11_8_04_06.jpeg

[lavallelee]

So turning 30 today, I went though some old boxes and I found a lot of my old art work and characters I created in the past.

Here is something I made in Jr. High, around age 13 or 14. Over 15 years ago, man that makes me feel old! :laughing:

http://4mchan.org/Forum/gallery/2_14_09_11_11_06_39.jpeg

[chrisd]

Happy Birthday, Lavalle.

That's a really great Eeyore you've done. I like the tender smile he has. It would have been nice to see that face in the movie at least once.
And good on you for keeping art from your early teens. Fifteen years is quite the journey. :)

[lavallelee]

Happy Birthday, Lavalle.

That's a really great Eeyore you've done. I like the tender smile he has. It would have been nice to see that face in the movie at least once.
And good on you for keeping art from your early teens. Fifteen years is quite the journey. :)

Thanks chrisd! To be honest I did a lot of drawing even over 20 years ago! For as far back as I can remember! Lol. Don't we all as kids. :)

Some Pooh doodles from memory.

http://4mchan.org/Forum/gallery/2_17_09_11_8_29_42.jpeg

[Rodney]

Thanks Lavalle, I needed that.

I'm hoping to see the new Pooh movies on Friday (there is obviously a little lag time in getting films to Japan!)

[dentitov]

lavallelee

Greate donkey sketch

[lavallelee]

Thanks Lavalle, I needed that.

I'm hoping to see the new Pooh movies on Friday (there is obviously a little lag time in getting films to Japan!)

Wow, so long of a wait. You will enjoy it and be sure to stay till the end credits!


lavallelee

Greate donkey sketch

Thanks dentitov!

Today I checked the mail and there I saw something from Don Bluth Animation!! Animate DVD #3!! I started watching it then pausing though frames, did some study, I wanted to post in todays seminar hopefully I was not to late.

http://4mchan.org/Forum/gallery/2_21_09_11_4_18_56.jpeg

[OwenWelsh]

That's a very good sketch of Eore. I like his expression.

[lavallelee]

Thanks Owen!

Finally I am doing pencil animation again! I really need to animate as much as possible. I feel like I loose a lot of what I learned when I take breaks. CURSE YOU MAKING A LIVING & BILLS!

http://www.donbluthanimation.com/videos.php?showvideo=803

Slice Pencil Test, needs more illusion of life?

[Rodney]

That's wonderful Lavalle.
I'm enjoying this too much too critique anything at the moment. (I don't want to spoil the fun I'm having watching this guy)

The principles of animation are important but the entertainment value alone has hooked me on your concept.

If I can think of any one aspect to critique it might be the perspective on this one. I must confess however that adjusting the camera's perspective down a couple notches might ruin what you've already got. Perhaps just before this shot there might be a short establishing shot from a higher angle?

Rock on!

Added: Without giving away too much here, do you consider the other pizza slices around him as also 'alive' (perhaps just sleeping) or is Slice coming alive to realize he is one of a kind? I guessing/leaning toward the latter on this one.

[Rodney]

Okay... wait a second...

What is up with the funky sequence numbering?

[lavallelee]

That's wonderful Lavalle.
I'm enjoying this too much too critique anything at the moment. (I don't want to spoil the fun I'm having watching this guy)

The principles of animation are important but the entertainment value alone has hooked me on your concept.

If I can think of any one aspect to critique it might be the perspective on this one. I must confess however that adjusting the camera's perspective down a couple notches might ruin what you've already got. Perhaps just before this shot there might be a short establishing shot from a higher angle?

Rock on!

Added: Without giving away too much here, do you consider the other pizza slices around him as also 'alive' (perhaps just sleeping) or is Slice coming alive to realize he is one of a kind? I guessing/leaning toward the latter on this one.
Thank you! I agree about perspective, still one of my worst subjects. In the scene actually it starts out a distant shot so you see the whole table then zooms into the pizza box and he wakes up for the first time!


Okay... wait a second...

What is up with the funky sequence numbering?

I animated straight ahead and had to go back 4 times. So everytime I would go back and add something say frame 33. I would add drawings after 33 so I would number them 33.1, 33.2, 33.3 etc

Then if I had to make changes to an already made scene like 33.1, then i would do 33.1.1. I know im doing this wrong, it has been some time since I did paper animation! Forgive me! The real way of doing it escaped my mind.

What was the correct way of numbering when you go back and change things or is it just erasing?

[Rodney]

What was the correct way of numbering when you go back and change things or is it just erasing?

I don't know that there is a correct way per se.
I believe it was Warner Brothers that used the Alphanumeric after the Number:

1
2
3
4
5
6 Ooops... messed up. I need a few more frames to slow this action down!

1
1A
1B
2
2A
2B
3
3A
4
5
6
etc.

Several different methods have been used and that usually depended on the studio.

As I understand it the primary reason you want to maintain the standard of Odd numbers for animation on twos and Odds and Evens on ones is so that others can pick up your animation (or xsheet) and immediately know what you are working out. The xsheet is where the primary timing is normally all worked out.

If I recall Don's instruction correctly (and please ask him during the weekly seminar!) he'd likely suggest you erase and renumber.

Of course in a pinch even Don might resort to his own numbering but when working with transfers to film/video it's generally best not to invent a new way of numbering.

Preaching to myself mode on: If we are struggling with the timing/numbering that is a good indicator that we are not taking advantage of the xsheet to plan our animation.

Now,having said this... please don't take me to task when you eventually see some of my own crazy numbering schemes. We have to experience these solutions first hand. I like to occasionally experiment and I've come up with odd methods of frame numbering placement (but note that I try not to mess with the classical method of numbering). One method I tested has the numbers running accross the top (or alternatively the bottom) in a way that allows all the numbers to appear together when all images are composited. In this way if there is a number missing you know which frame you've left out.

An alternate method I was messing with but tossed out because I could see it working in a collaborative environment was to create a nine section square that is shaded in to indicate the frame (or frames) you are on. Sorry... I'm straying off topic...

Bottom line: If you are working alone you can use your own numbering but it's a lot easier to misread those if you deviate from the standard. Expecting someone else to read them correctly (i.e. critiques from Don) could cause unnecessary confusion that you'd be better off without.

All this for discussions sake. I was just fascinated by your numbering. :)

[Rodney]

To recap for those looking in that may not fully understand the generally accepted method of numbering:

Animation on ones can be identified by drawings that are numbered using every number (both even and odd):

1, 2, 3, 4, 5 etc.

Animation on twos is numbered using only odd numbers:

1, 3, 5, 7 9 etc.

The even frames are copies of the previous odd numbered drawing.
This equates to:

1, 1, 2, 2, 3, 3, 4, 4, 5, 5 and so on.

Occasionally you may have a sequence that has animation on both ones and twos. In a very slow action you may have to add in more drawings but as the action picks up the pace you may be able to repeat more drawings. Compare this with the terms Slow-In and Slow-Out were a motion cushions into or out of a pose.

So... what does this do for me Rodney!!!
When you see an even number on a drawing you know that your sequence is being drawn on ones. So, you have to draw all of the drawings. If you don't see any even numbers then you are on twos (but watch for the need to have inserted inbetween drawings!). When on twos you only have to draw every other drawing. Each drawings is copied.

This leads me to another observation Lavalle.
I note that you have a drawing #0. Personally, I love this but others will surely find this to be strange numbering.
I interpret this number 0 to be your static 'this is underneath it all' drawing. The default drawing or... perhaps representational of the background. Anyway... it does beg the question... is the number zero even or odd? :)

[arif]

Cool animation Kinjo...nice...to your pizza....it will go my stomach very soon:D

[lavallelee]

If I recall Don's instruction correctly (and please ask him during the weekly seminar!) he'd likely suggest you erase and renumber.

Yes I he does say that.

My original straight ahead was went to 33 on 2s. Then I went back and added a blink. Around frame 3 or 5. I didn't want to erase all the numbers and re-number 7-33 (on 2s). Whenever I erase the top right of the paper maybe 5% of the time i might accidentally mess up the paper. Then it might ruin the drawing.



Preaching to myself mode on: If we are struggling with the timing/numbering that is a good indicator that we are not taking advantage of the xsheet to plan our animation.

I am going to use the xsheet on my next scene. You are right. I have already started thumbnailing too.



All this for discussions sake. I was just fascinated by your numbering.

http://4mchan.org/Forum/Smileys/4M/asia.gif



I note that you have a drawing #0. Personally, I love this but others will surely find this to be strange numbering.
I interpret this number 0 to be your static 'this is underneath it all' drawing. The default drawing or... perhaps representational of the background. Anyway... it does beg the question... is the number zero even or odd? :)

Zero was simply the first drawing with his eyes close that was held for about 1 second. Like you said default/static. :) Zero is nothing. It can't be either. :laughing:



Cool animation Kinjo...nice...to your pizza....it will go my stomach very soon

I might have pizza today too! lol

Here is the flash version of it, added a small sound to when he rubs his eye. The frames might run smoother than the .mov I posted earlier.

http://www.flashcartoons.org/preview/preview.html

[andrew sharp]

Cool character lavallelee does he get eatten?Or a near miss?Animate more man they are looking cool the rub eyes sounds funny.

[KayMartha12]

Hey, Lavalle,

That was fun, your pizza is very expressive!

[Rodney]

Zero is nothing. It can't be either.

You know... I was going to leave this alone but I'm a problem child.
I'm going to quibble a little with your value of zero. We can determine how important it is to animation at some other time. ;)

Strictly speaking, Zero is undefined. It can be either odd or even* but because we don't know what it is we cannot rightfully decide. Try this on for size:

0/0 (Undefined - We cannot divide by zero because we don't yet know how to define it - but we know it is not the same as nothing because something fully divided by itself equals 1 (i.e the numerator is the denominator)
1/1 (Case in point - 1 divided by 1 is one)
1*1 (Anything multiplied by 1 is the same number)
0*1 (Anything multipled by something undefined remains (at least partially) undefined - 0 times anything is 0 (undefined))
1*0 (there is no change in the sum when reordering what is to be multiplied)
...and yet all of that still leaves us with this strange number: 0

So are all of the following the same number (or the equivalent of nothing)?

0
0/1
1/0
0/0
0*0
0*1
1*0

The only thing that seems certain is that they are likely less but not at all equivalent to 1 or 1*1 or 1/1.

So is 0+0 or 0-0><0*0?

Only when the number under consideration is roughly the equivalent of nothing.

Sorry Lavalle, but I find this stuff endlessly fascinating. :laughing: / :laughing:

*Edit: I am not convinced that zero can in fact be strictly odd. I may be considered odd here but the odds are that zero is most likely even. Now, isn't that exceedingly odd?

[lavallelee]

Cool character lavallelee does he get eatten?Or a near miss?Animate more man they are looking cool the rub eyes sounds funny.

thanks working on the next scene as we speak! this time i am doing a lot of planning!


Hey, Lavalle,

That was fun, your pizza is very expressive!

thanks Kay! :) happy you liked it


You know... I was going to leave this alone but I'm a problem child.
I'm going to quibble a little with your value of zero. We can determine how important it is to animation at some other time.

Strictly speaking, Zero is undefined. It can be either odd or even* but because we don't know what it is we cannot rightfully decide. Try this on for size:

0/0 (Undefined - We cannot divide by zero because we don't yet know how to define it - but we know it is not the same as nothing because something fully divided by itself equals 1 (i.e the numerator is the denominator)
1/1 (Case in point - 1 divided by 1 is one)
1*1 (Anything multiplied by 1 is the same number)
0*1 (Anything multipled by something undefined remains (at least partially) undefined - 0 times anything is 0 (undefined))
1*0 (there is no change in the sum when reordering what is to be multiplied)
...and yet all of that still leaves us with this strange number: 0

So are all of the following the same number (or the equivalent of nothing)?

0
0/1
1/0
0/0
0*0
0*1
1*0

The only thing that seems certain is that they are likely less but not at all equivalent to 1 or 1*1 or 1/1.

So is 0+0 or 0-0><0*0?

Only when the number under consideration is roughly the equivalent of nothing.

Sorry Lavalle, but I find this stuff endlessly fascinating.

*Edit: I am not convinced that zero can in fact be strictly odd. I may be considered odd here but the odds are that zero is most likely even. Now, isn't that exceedingly odd?

I knew I was opening a can of worms when I said that about zero. I really just said that out of randomness. Anywho this is for you Rodney.

:rolleyes:

http://4mchan.org/Forum/gallery/2_27_09_11_8_23_22.jpeg

[lavallelee]

my next chick n slice scene, this time with no funky numbering! i planned! i planned!

http://www.donbluthanimation.com/videos.php?showvideo=805

in this shot, when i ink it i might make slice a bit bigger (and fix any feet problems) and do 2 different camera shots maybe 1 close up

[KayMartha12]

Hi Lavalle,

I like the walk cycle of the pizza. He looks determined!

[arif]

Hi Kinjo laaavaalllleeee...
You have improved a looooooot..!!..liked your second one too..you are doing Tradition animation rather than flash.....that is so nice...keep doo mooooreeeee:D:D

[andrew sharp]

Cool work lavallele I keep wondering what is going to happen to him?

[lavallelee]

Hi Lavalle,

I like the walk cycle of the pizza. He looks determined!

lol, after you said this i realized i wanted him to look happy! so when i ink it i will make him a bit happier :laughing: thanks for seeing what i couldn't, always good to get fresh eyes on your work after working on it


Hi Kinjo laaavaalllleeee...
You have improved a looooooot..!!..liked your second one too..you are doing Tradition animation rather than flash.....that is so nice...keep doo mooooreeeee:D:D

thanks! i ink them in flash, sadly looses a lot of quality when i ink, i am not the best digital ink and paint guy


Cool work lavallele I keep wondering what is going to happen to him?

you will see soon!!

I have some awesome news!!!!! I got really lucky and purchased

http://www.traditionalanimation.com

I've been watching this domain for a little while and I noticed it was expiring so the day it was expired fully, I snatched it up! It is still a HUGE work in progress, most of the pages are empty, but will be filled. I hope to make this site the go to place for traditional animation.

:cool:

[NickFechter]

Wow! Is this YOUR website lavellelee? It so well made; I had no idea that you were this entrepreneurial. I'm definitely going to book-mark this ;)

[andrew sharp]

Congrats man that is cool :D

[lavallelee]

Wow! Is this YOUR website lavellelee? It so well made; I had no idea that you were this entrepreneurial. I'm definitely going to book-mark this ;)

Thanks! A lot of updating to do. I just finished the about page, working on the expo page now. lol


Congrats man that is cool :D

Thanks andrew!

Also i snatched up www.TraditionalAnimations.com (added a S) and www.HandDrawnAnimation.com. They will just forward to the main site. :laughing:

[lavallelee]

http://4mchan.org/Forum/gallery/2_04_10_11_7_00_32.jpeg

Here is a chick n slice preview, the barrel is too small, I mainly wanted to capture their poses the barrel will be bigger in the final cut!

[lavallelee]

It's halloween month! I don't know why but I like to draw monsters and stuff around Halloween! Could be all the houses dressed up scary like! :eek:


http://4mchan.org/Forum/gallery/2_07_10_11_7_11_51.jpeg

markered, Creature from the Black Lagoon

[KayMartha12]

Love the Halloween spirit, its giving me ideas!

[andrew sharp]

Very cool creature Lavallelee. I still have not seen that movie but always liked that creature design:)Is the movie good or so so?

[lavallelee]

Love the Halloween spirit, its giving me ideas!

let's see them!


Very cool creature Lavallelee. I still have not seen that movie but always liked that creature design:)Is the movie good or so so?

it is a classic, a must see!!!

today i doodled a deviant temptress named Jessica Flower, my version of Jessica Rabbit but a flower, lol

http://4mchan.org/Forum/gallery/2_09_10_11_10_12_51.jpeg

[KayMartha12]

hahahaha, nice design!

[lavallelee]

thanks Kay!!

http://portal.flashcartoons.org/sites/default/files/thumbs/donn5.jpg

Donn & Don - Episode 5

<object width="480" height="385"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/dgLUUKU4jE8?fs=1&amp;hl=en_US"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/dgLUUKU4jE8?fs=1&amp;hl=en_US" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="480" height="385"></embed></object>

http://portal.flashcartoons.org/uploads/donn-don-5
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dgLUUKU4jE8

Episode 5!! Don goes shopping for a new hat, see what he buys!

[andrew sharp]

Man that is funny :)

[SpiralEFX]

Funny!!!!!!

[lavallelee]

Thanks Guys! I had to make another while the idea was still fresh in my head, here you go!

http://portal.flashcartoons.org/sites/default/files/thumbs/donn6.jpg

Donn & Don - Episode 6

<object width="480" height="385"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/uAmbLKT-hiY?fs=1&amp;hl=en_US"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/uAmbLKT-hiY?fs=1&amp;hl=en_US" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="480" height="385"></embed></object>

http://portal.flashcartoons.org/uploads/donn-don-6
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uAmbLKT-hiY

Episode 6!! Don decides to get somethings done off his bucket list.

[arif]

hahahaha...cool....do more..kinjoo:D:D

[lavallelee]

thanks arif!

http://4mchan.org/Forum/gallery/2_16_10_11_1_50_49.jpeg

i designed the whole plane for Donn & Don, originally i was going to show all of it, but then only showed a small portion :)

[andrew sharp]

fun shapes on that plane:) your drawings always have cool shapes:)

[lavallelee]

fun shapes on that plane:) your drawings always have cool shapes:)

thanks andrew!!

halloween is almost here, i put my kinjokids halloween episode on youtube, i made this 10 years ago!! in 2001!!

Kinjokids Halloween - "Kinjostein"

<object width="480" height="385"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/Dw2RzY3EmN0?fs=1&amp;hl=en_US"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/Dw2RzY3EmN0?fs=1&amp;hl=en_US" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="480" height="385"></embed></object>

[lavallelee]

http://4mchan.org/Forum/gallery/2_31_10_11_7_50_06.jpeg

Working on the timing to this scene for chick n' slice now :)

[OwenWelsh]

Lavalle I really enjoyed Episode 6! Great timing. You are very good at comedy. :laughing:

[lavallelee]

Thanks Owen! Hopefully one day my comedy will be on tv! :cool:

I have been putting a lot of my old stuff on youtube lately. Here is another, made in 2001! The Frog

The Frog(2001)

<object width="480" height="385"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/1Oc7VtP78j8?fs=1&amp;hl=en_US"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/1Oc7VtP78j8?fs=1&amp;hl=en_US" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="480" height="385"></embed></object>
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Oc7VtP78j8

[arif]

:D :D :D heheheehehehheeh:eek:

[andrew sharp]

Funny little guy tough yet polite :)

[Gabriel-Carson]

funny stuff :D

[lavallelee]

heheheehehehheeh:eek:

lol thanks arif!!


Funny little guy tough yet polite :)

and think, i made this 10+ years ago!


funny stuff

thanks gabriel :)

here is an old woman i doodled yesturday

http://4mchan.org/Forum/gallery/2_17_11_11_7_28_41.jpeg

[lavallelee]

doing some milt kahl rescuers study :)

http://4mchan.org/Forum/gallery/2_17_11_11_3_40_01.jpeg

shirt is a bit to big at the bottom

[KayMartha12]

Your cartoons are a lot of fun, Lavalle!

[lavallelee]

thank you :) my next cartoon i have 53 seconds completed!

here is a quick gag doodle

http://4mchan.org/Forum/gallery/2_18_11_11_9_28_00.jpeg

[frankenart]

great stuff ,lava,the halloween vid was my fave,keep it up.

[andrew sharp]

Eye love Lucy thats so rad:)

[lavallelee]

turkeys!

http://4mchan.org/Forum/gallery/2_24_11_11_7_28_50.jpeg

http://4mchan.org/Forum/gallery/2_24_11_11_7_29_29.jpeg

i am getting stuffed tonight! ... wait, i mean i will be really really filled with food that i ate for thanksgiving dinner http://4mchan.org/Forum/Smileys/4M/emoticon-0136-giggle.gif

[andrew sharp]

Gobble Gobble have a good time thanksgiving sir.

[KayMartha12]

I like the anticipation of the 2nd turkey, Happy Thanksgiving Lavalle!

[lavallelee]

Gobble Gobble have a good time thanksgiving sir.

thanks, and i did! had left overs for days :)


I like the anticipation of the 2nd turkey, Happy Thanksgiving Lavalle!

happy thanksgiving to you 2!

started some David Colman study

messed up on the tigers face...

http://4mchan.org/Forum/gallery/2_29_11_11_4_56_07.jpeg

http://4mchan.org/Forum/gallery/2_29_11_11_4_56_20.jpeg

[KayMartha12]

I've never seen the originals, but I like the line contrasts of your drawings!

[lavallelee]

thanks kay!

here is another David Colman study, I ran out of room, i need to buy bigger sheets, printer paper is to small!

http://4mchan.org/Forum/gallery/2_30_11_11_7_10_10.jpeg

[andrew sharp]

Funny drawing Lavallelee something about big people doing takes cracks me up :)

[lavallelee]

thanks andrew! here is todays first 2 david colman studies

http://4mchan.org/Forum/gallery/2_30_11_11_12_36_06.jpeg

http://4mchan.org/Forum/gallery/2_30_11_11_12_36_41.jpeg

[lavallelee]

last of the david colman studies, that was fun!

http://4mchan.org/Forum/gallery/2_30_11_11_12_40_36.jpeg

http://4mchan.org/Forum/gallery/2_30_11_11_12_37_21.jpeg

[andrew sharp]

Awesome work Lavallelee very dynamic and funny:) Great job on the elephants to man you draw fast.

[lavallelee]

thx andrew :)

here is my own attempt on david colman's stuff, i don't know why but i was thinking spy vs spy with bombs, lol

http://4mchan.org/Forum/gallery/2_30_11_11_4_56_42.jpeg

http://4mchan.org/Forum/gallery/2_30_11_11_8_46_38.jpeg

could be better..

[feliceworkshop]

could be better..

....dude what are you talking about? You're right on the money!!!... this character is hilarious!! :laughing::laughing:
Good job Lavalle!

[lavallelee]

Thanks Felice now if only he was my character!

Doing some quick sketches in flash :)

http://4mchan.org/Forum/gallery/2_30_11_11_1_12_08.jpeg

[Tanya]

Nice poses! I like the ones in the upper right corner where he looks like he's falling over and trying to catch himself =]

[andrew sharp]

Good work posing with spy vs spy in mind very cool.

[lavallelee]

Nice poses! I like the ones in the upper right corner where he looks like he's falling over and trying to catch himself

Thanks I had fun doodling them lol


Good work posing with spy vs spy in mind very cool.

Thx andrew, now I feel like watching spy vs spy

My attempts at the elephants don drew in the seminar, I drew while he did.

http://4mchan.org/Forum/gallery/2_30_11_11_6_49_18.jpeg

http://4mchan.org/Forum/gallery/2_30_11_11_6_49_28.jpeg

http://4mchan.org/Forum/gallery/2_30_11_11_6_57_00.jpeg

http://4mchan.org/Forum/gallery/2_30_11_11_6_57_22.jpeg

[KayMartha12]

Nice job, Lavalle! I like how you pushed the elephant pose!

[lavallelee]

Thx Kay! Another!

Here is my attempt at my own pose of the elephant

http://4mchan.org/Forum/gallery/2_30_11_11_7_00_46.jpeg

[andrew sharp]

Good humour in all these drawing Lavallelee you always have such clear readable drawings:)

[lavallelee]

Good humour in all these drawing Lavallelee you always have such clear readable drawings:)

thank you andrew ;)

here is an elephant on a tight rope, ran out of room on the paper but that did not stop me THIS TIME!

http://4mchan.org/Forum/gallery/2_03_12_11_12_23_56.jpeg

[lavallelee]

here is my puppy salty, she was growling at me to say "stop looking at me!" as i drew her

http://4mchan.org/Forum/gallery/2_04_12_11_5_06_10.jpeg

[lavallelee]

http://4mchan.org/Forum/gallery/2_04_12_11_5_05_57.jpeg

some crackerland doodles :)

[andrew sharp]

The Cracker Land sketches are becoming like writing your signature they look like they were done very quickly I like them a lot:)

[lavallelee]

The Cracker Land sketches are becoming like writing your signature they look like they were done very quickly I like them a lot:)

that is cool of you to say, thanks andrew :)

http://4mchan.org/Forum/gallery/2_06_12_11_8_55_25.jpeg

[lavallelee]

my attempt at don's bunny

http://4mchan.org/Forum/gallery/2_07_12_11_9_18_05.jpeg

[OwenWelsh]

Great bunny Lavalle! It looks just like a Don Bluth drawing!

[KayMartha12]

hee hee hee...your drawings have a comic punch to them, lavalle!

[lavallelee]

Great bunny Lavalle! It looks just like a Don Bluth drawing!

thanks owen! now if only i could animate like Don! :laughing:


hee hee hee...your drawings have a comic punch to them, lavalle!

thanks Kay, many more to come :)

http://4mchan.org/Forum/gallery/2_09_12_11_8_12_58.jpeg

drew this lizard from don's seminar on wednesday

[OwenWelsh]

thanks owen! now if only i could animate like Don! :laughing:


Ditto! :laughing:

I really like your lizard drawing as well.

[lavallelee]

:D thx owen!

my next animal life drawing, my dog salty :)

woohoo page 100!!

http://4mchan.org/Forum/gallery/2_09_12_11_8_16_04.jpeg

[lavallelee]

grumpy! goofed a bit on the beard

http://4mchan.org/Forum/gallery/2_10_12_11_7_39_25.jpeg

[lavallelee]

tonight's seminar study!

http://4mchan.org/Forum/gallery/2_14_12_11_7_56_56.jpeg

http://4mchan.org/Forum/gallery/2_14_12_11_7_58_59.jpeg

more to scan ;)

[OwenWelsh]

Love the mouse with his big feet!

[andrew sharp]

Cool dude you are a hundred pages old, I think that makes you one of the old men on this site :) Your pushed mouse character looks cool it would be awesome to see a cleaned up version of him:)

[lavallelee]

Love the mouse with his big feet!

Thanks Owen :)


Cool dude you are a hundred pages old, I think that makes you one of the old men on this site :) Your pushed mouse character looks cool it would be awesome to see a cleaned up version of him

I'm not that old, lol. It is cool that my gallery is the first topic here to reach 100 pages!

Here is more study from last nights seminar

http://4mchan.org/Forum/gallery/2_14_12_11_7_59_03.jpeg

http://4mchan.org/Forum/gallery/2_14_12_11_7_57_45.jpeg

[lavallelee]

My own attempt, goofed a bit on the ear and hands/arm.

http://4mchan.org/Forum/gallery/2_14_12_11_7_58_15.jpeg

[lavallelee]

Siberian Husky Study (say that 3 times fast) :laughing:

http://4mchan.org/Forum/gallery/2_16_12_11_9_14_28.jpeg

http://4mchan.org/Forum/gallery/2_16_12_11_9_13_37.jpeg

[lavallelee]

stork study

http://4mchan.org/Forum/gallery/2_18_12_11_2_01_16.jpeg

dumbo study :)

http://4mchan.org/Forum/gallery/2_18_12_11_2_01_35.jpeg

sad attempt at clean up

[andrew sharp]

Good work man your storkes look solid i like the one in the tree. Good clean up nice shapes in there